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Jackson: Catch - No Catch

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by Rkb75, Nov 12, 2023.

  1. denny_crane

    denny_crane All American

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    Exactly. It makes you wonder why there were 2 straight holding calls on the last drive, with no chance of winning, to make it 1st and 30. Someone big laying the points?
     
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  2. northgagator

    northgagator GC Hall of Fame

    I guess that since the Gator are "Also Rans" it is in the best interest for the SEC to protect the top rank teams. However, I do not recall the Gators getting that special treatment under the SOS and Meyer years. Then again my Orange and Blue glasses may of distorted my view back then.[/QUOTE]
     
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  3. VAg8r1

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    Supposedly the standard for a reversal of an on-field call is “incontrovertible visual evidence" that the call was incorrect. While arguably it may have appeared that the ball was wobbling when Jackson hit the ground from most angles it appeared that he had control of the ball after he made the catch, no where near the “incontrovertible evidence" standard for a reversal.
     
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  4. twodaparty

    twodaparty GC Hall of Fame

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    That cost us a chance of winning the game. There has to be INDISPUTABLE video evidence to overturn a call. That call should have STOOD, not be CONFIRMED but STOOD. Video replay official should be fired.
     
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  5. HobeGator

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    I can see that if they looked at the catch long enough, they could say maybe the end of the ball touched the ground. Not clear proof for overturning the play as called on the field though.
    The worse one was running Johnson 5 yards out of bounds and into the equipment boxes with a defender making contact with him for all of that distance. No way that's not a PF.
     
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  6. Brodeur

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    Watching the replay I would guess the ball was moving in his hands and touched the ground enough when Jackson landed to be incomplete. Key word being "guess", nothing we saw was conclusive to overturn the call. Huge reach by the refs there.

    I'm very empathetic to refs that miss tough bang-bang plays live, its harder than we think. But no excuses for messing up replays like that.
     
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  7. MCB51

    MCB51 Moderator VIP Member

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    Agree..no matter who our coaches are there have been..questionable calls
     
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  8. 1980gator

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    Vegas should have nothing to do with outcomes of games. And yes it was definitely a catch. You can’t overturn that. That replay official has that little screen to look at. How can you see anything on that screen? What a joke.
     
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  9. Endless Excuses

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    I loved Kelly lobbying when Daniels got hit in bounds (maybe only time we touched him all night). I wonder if he thought the tackle of our rb 20 yards off field was a late hit?
     
  10. ajoseph

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    We have been screwed over catches more than any other team I’ve ever seen. There is zero consistency between the refs ion similar replays. And here, the only way they reverse that call is by guessing.
     
  11. ajoseph

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    To follow up, it makes no difference if the ball is wobbling if there is no video of the ball actually touching the ground. You might’ve guessed it hit the ground, but watching the replays in TV, I didn’t actually see it hit the ground.
     
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  12. KronoGator

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    Yep, refs were making sure the spread held up,
     
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  13. GatorNavy

    GatorNavy Damn the Torpedoes! Moderator VIP Member

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    There is an over abundance of bad officiating on any given Saturday in college football.
     
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  14. GatorRade

    GatorRade Rad Scientist

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    Ignoring the condescending tones here, let me flip the question around: what should count as good evidence for this conspiracy? Personally, I require systemic studies that have proper controls. If either of you can provide such, I’d be happy to switch my conclusion. But seeing a call go against an underdog team doesn’t rise to a convincing set of data.

    In fact, if I were in charge of this conspiracy for the SEC, I’d be trying to engineer a victory for Florida over LSU. Florida is a fantastic national brand that I’d much prefer resurrected than protecting a fairly uninteresting 3-loss LSU team.
     
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  15. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator Moderator VIP Member

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    there is always a lot of speculation about refs - hell I am still convinced the swindle was orchestrated
     
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  16. Distant Gator

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    i didn’t think there was doubt about that.
    I think the call lat night was unconscious bias. as was the uga call
     
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  17. KronoGator

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    Ball didn't hit the ground.
     
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  18. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    (It was, bill)
     
  19. swampbabe

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    Good thing you’re not in charge. LSU is ranked higher, will get a decent bowl bid which will generate more cash for the conference
     
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  20. GatorRade

    GatorRade Rad Scientist

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    Again, I don’t see the need for the insults, but I would again request the data. What’s your evidence for this claim?