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Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gatorrick22, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. gator95

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    It's like you didn't even watch the video. I can't help it if I don't support a group of people who openly want to kill another group simply because of their religion. You keep thinking that is ok. I don't see Hamas around this play holding a gun to everyone's head making them watch. If the Palestinian people are good with crap like this being taught to their kids then yes, I do think their lives are worth less. Like I said, says all I need to know about you and your support of terrorists.
     
  2. homer

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    Here’s a new idea.

    All lives matter.
     
  3. VAg8r1

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    While the deaths of Palestinian children in Gaza are truly tragic, keep in mind, were it no for the cross border terrorist attack and atrocities against Israeli civilians committed by Hamas every Palestinian in Gaza including Palestinian children killed after October 7 would be alive today.
     
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  4. duchen

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    Does anyone believe that the the missile that the Arrow system intercepted in pace that launched from Yemen was launched by Houthi's or IRG?
     
  5. duchen

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    So can we.
     
  6. duchen

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    if Hamas did not hide behind human shields, these children would not be dead.
     
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  7. tampagtr

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    Agreed. And they know that too. We tried to send a message and deter, because it does the US (or Israel) no good for the US to get dragged into a wider war. That doesn't mean it will not happen
     
  8. tampagtr

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    Tyler Rogoway with this afternoon's report. Four hour pauses in the north daily, at least for the time being. Hamas claims some successes, but still a bit skeptical of any significant success because they GoPro all and release anything that can remotely be characterized as a success for propaganda purposes. So far only a few videos with unclear results. There is a Hezbollah video in there which seems to show some success.
     
  9. tampagtr

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    Telling.

     
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  10. cron78

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    Lotta folks didn’t like that phrase a couple years ago. Wondering if it might be more acceptable this time around.
     
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  11. gator_lawyer

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    Nope. Still a shitty and dismissive phrase.
     
  12. gator_lawyer

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    Bro, come on.
     
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  13. gator_lawyer

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    Hamas are evil terrorist shits. Yet, their evil actions don't justify retaliatory bombings of innocent women and children. Killing Israeli children is unacceptable. Killing Palestinian children is also unacceptable.
     
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  14. GatorJMDZ

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    I had a very close friend who owned a jewelry store. One day she was there alone when someone came in and robbed her at knife point. She was able to trip an alarm and, when the robber heard law enforcement approaching, he decided to take her out of the store with a knife to her throat just as police were pulling into her parking lot.

    I'm intentionally not going to finish this, just something to think about.
     
  15. VAg8r1

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    Palestinian children have died not because Israel is killing them as a form of retaliation, they died because Hamas is using Palestinian civilians as human shields. Hamas tunnels run beneath civilian buildings including schools and hospitals, they store munitions in civilian neighborhoods and fire rockets aimed at civilian areas in Israel from sites among civilian residential neighborhoods in Gaza.

    By the way at this point I think that Israel should probably reduce the aerial bombardment of Gaza, should implement a humanitarian pause and should resume deliveries of medical supplies and fuel to Gaza provided that the fuel is delivered in such a way as to ensure Hamas doesn't end up controlling the fuel and that is used for generators powering hospitals, water treatment plants and civilian residential facilities.
     
  16. gator_lawyer

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    That is such bullshit. This is like Russia claiming that it is justifiable for it to carpet-bomb Ukrainian cities because the Ukrainian military is using the civilians as "human shields." Not a single one of you would believe that crap. Yet, you fall all over yourselves to believe it here. Israel's right-wing government is retaliating against the Palestinians in Gaza for what Hamas did.

    I'm sure they do. Guerrilla tactics. Yet, nobody is forcing Israel to bomb hospitals and schools.

    All of that would be progress. But let's also stop letting Israel off the hook for the choices it is making.
     
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  17. tripsright

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    Lol….no. It’s the truth, and the appropriate phrase, in general. I do agree with you that under some of the context that it’s been used, especially in the beginnings of the BLM movement, it has absolutely been intended to be dismissive, and were racially motivated.
     
  18. gator_lawyer

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    You're only proving my point. Of course it's true. But people use the phrase when they're trying to be dismissive of some group who is being harmed. How often do you hear people use the phrase "All lives matter" in a way that isn't dismissive?
     
  19. duchen

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    And? How many people just died because Israel has repeatedly agreed to cease fires when Hamas previously attacked in Israel or launched missile strikes. The difference lies in the act of an individual versus that of a government
     
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  20. tripsright

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    I’m not proving your point, at all. Just because some bigoted group of people choose to use the phrase in a condescending/dismissive manner, doesn’t make the sentiment, in general, “shitty and dismissive”. As to your question, I’ve heard that phrase used by plenty of people in an appropriate manner. It’s just that the idiots are usually the one’s getting the attention for it. Their errors shouldn’t reflect on the truth of the phrase.
    Careful with your argument. You’re using the same rationale as the anti-woke morons of the world.
     
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