Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

The coming Trump Neofascist crackdown if he wins...

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by luvtruthg8r, Nov 6, 2023.

  1. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    14,938
    13,147
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    and you know this how? Gotta link to a smoking gun that proves Garland is corrupt?
     
  2. GatorJMDZ

    GatorJMDZ gatorjack VIP Member

    24,256
    2,472
    1,868
    Apr 3, 2007
    Uhmm, that "crackhead" has a BA from Georgetown and later attended Georgetown Law School before getting his law degree from Yale.

    How do your academic credentials compare?
     
  3. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

    6,785
    827
    2,103
    Dec 6, 2015
    Im sorry guys.

    I hope your kids end up like Hunter Biden. After all, he has a JD from Yale. Apart from that how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?:D
     
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2023
    • Funny Funny x 1
  4. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

    6,785
    827
    2,103
    Dec 6, 2015
    The Trump indictments, particularly those relating to Jack Smith. He chose to wipe his hands, He could’ve intervened. He didn’t.

    I actually have more of an issue with Garland than with Smith. Smith was appointed to pursue Trump. That’s his job. And he’s doing it zealously, I’d argue over zealously but that’s to be expected. Garland is tasked with overseeing the DOJ and maintaining its integrity and reputation. He chose to defer all of that responsibility to Smith. He can’t do that. Considering the President probably couldn’t tell you what day it is, I’d say this is on Garland because he knows better or should know better. Smith is just doing what he was appointed to do, even if he’s gone too far.
     
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    14,938
    13,147
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    So he's corrupt because he didn't intervene to make sure the orange one never got indicted? Anything to protect the orange god. smdh.
     
  6. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

    6,785
    827
    2,103
    Dec 6, 2015
    The buck stops with him (or Joe Biden, take your pick) and he got what he wanted in overseeing something the US has never seen before. Using the Justice System to further purely political ends.
     
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2023
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 2
  7. AzCatFan

    AzCatFan GC Hall of Fame

    11,803
    1,085
    1,618
    Apr 9, 2007
    Not shocking, but your understanding of special prosecutors is sorely lacking. They are used to ensure there is no politics involved. Here is a brief history of the use of special prosecutors.

    Had Garland been involved without a special prosecutor, the story would have been Biden's appointee is going after his political rival. But with Smith, he's independent. Garland still has final discretion when it comes to indictments, and could've overridden Smith. But the evidence was very damning.

    Garland made the right decision getting an independent person to investigate Trump. You are just unhappy with all the dirt that was easily found.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  8. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

    6,785
    827
    2,103
    Dec 6, 2015
    Correct.

    Correct that he was right to get an "independent" person to investigate Trump. Incorrect that he made the right call in refusing to override the decision to indict.
     
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  9. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    14,938
    13,147
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    So under no circumstances and regardless of any evidence, Trump is off limits to any indictments. Good to know that some prefer that he be above the law. Next....
     
    • Best Post Ever Best Post Ever x 1
  10. AzCatFan

    AzCatFan GC Hall of Fame

    11,803
    1,085
    1,618
    Apr 9, 2007
    Evidence and truth doesn't matter when it comes to the Orange deity. He is above the law...says the party formerly claiming to be the law and order party.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  11. Contra

    Contra GC Hall of Fame

    1,319
    335
    178
    May 15, 2023
    [​IMG]
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  12. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

    15,792
    5,476
    3,213
    Oct 30, 2017
    That's different. They're criminals. Trump is being persecuted.
     
  13. gatorchamps960608

    gatorchamps960608 GC Hall of Fame

    4,018
    854
    2,463
    Jul 4, 2020
    Trump did not run for the presidency to win. He ran to position himself as the top critic of the Hillary administration for a new Trump News Network he was planning.

    He was scared poopless on election night knowing that his life of criminality would now get a laser focused investigative roto rootering.

    Trump needs to be investigated and possibly prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law to create a negative incentive structure for any other savvy well-funded criminal to seek the presidency. Similarly, foreign actors should need to think twice about propping up such an individual for that job.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  14. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

    6,785
    827
    2,103
    Dec 6, 2015
    Not what I'm saying, but it would be a start if Biden didn't have to scramble because he himself had classified documents. :rolleyes:
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  15. Trickster

    Trickster VIP Member

    9,602
    2,361
    3,233
    Sep 20, 2014
    I have only one thing to say, and the brilliant Frank Bruni said it for me:
    "A vote for Trump is like a civic suicide pact."
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  16. ajoseph

    ajoseph Premium Member

    6,320
    2,409
    2,998
    Jan 15, 2008
    Like Pence? And everyone else who cooperated in the return of documents?
     
    • Wish I would have said that Wish I would have said that x 1
  17. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

    6,785
    827
    2,103
    Dec 6, 2015
    Like pretty much everyone whose been in the White House in our lifetime. This doesn’t prove the point that you think it does. “Cooperation” after the fact does not typically immunize you from prosecution.
     
  18. AzCatFan

    AzCatFan GC Hall of Fame

    11,803
    1,085
    1,618
    Apr 9, 2007
    True, there are other factors the DOJ looks at. Like intent, potential damage to national security, and any actual damage done.

    Hypothetically, if say a former high ranking Federal office holder had some low level docs in his garage that were zero threat to national security, and he fully cooperated in the return of all materials, precedent says the DOJ won't charge. In contrast, if the docs are some of the most sensitive materials produced, no cooperation in returning them, and are kept on the premises where known spies were caught before, this scenario is almost guaranteed to bring charges.
     
  19. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

    6,785
    827
    2,103
    Dec 6, 2015
    Or the politics of the culprit and the threat they pose to the status quo and their ideology.
     
  20. AzCatFan

    AzCatFan GC Hall of Fame

    11,803
    1,085
    1,618
    Apr 9, 2007
    Nope. DOJ precedent is solid in these cases and political persuasion of the person with leaked docs is never a concern.