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Biden trails in swing states

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by l_boy, Nov 6, 2023.

  1. BigCypressGator1981

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    What’s the latest Biden could drop out? I wouldn’t be shocked if suddenly his “health starts failing” if these polls numbers continue into the spring/summer.
     
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  3. RIP

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    Well shoot, I guess I didn't get the memo.
     
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  4. WarDamnGator

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    It's completely out of my control, all I know is that if Trump is the alternative, then the democrat candidate will get my 20 votes.
     
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  5. RIP

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    Yeah, I'll vote Biden over Trump if it comes to that. I will not like it.
     
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  6. kygator

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    Sounds like exiledgator just got his first endorsement.
     
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    Newsome seems to be positioning himself as the pinch hitter if needed..
     
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  8. BigCypressGator1981

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    If it looks like a losing battle I assume Biden would step aside. I think he had to be convinced to run in 2020 and he did so for the good of the party/country. If the same folks asked him to hand off the baton to Newsom because Biden’s chances of reelection looked grim he would do so for the same reasons. He doesn’t strike me as the power hungry type like Trump who is incapable of putting others before himself.
     
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  9. gator95

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    Looks like I'll be voting 3rd party or not voting for President for the 3rd straight time. We have nominated absolute idiots and/or terrible people since 2016 on both sides for President. Can we get a moderate D or moderate R to run and get traction? Unfortunately I don't see it happening anytime soon.
     
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  10. okeechobee

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    Wow, Haley is crushing Biden by double digits in many swing states. That is not to say Haley will win the nomination, but it’s very revealing as Haley is viewed as the closest thing to a mainstream GOP non-Trump candidate there is. Which means if this election was against a mainstream GOP type not named Trump, Biden would get smoked. That does not bode well for Biden at all, because a margin that large means people overall are ready to dump him, including independents and Democrat swing voters.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
     
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    If the election takes longer than 3 hours, please consult a physician.
     
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  12. g8trjax

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    When Obama comes out publicly against Biden, the fuse has been lit...until then, probably no worries.
     
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    his family and the whole group of people that are employed by his admin are encouraging him to run. they enjoy the perks, prestige, and employment. Especially Beau's daughter who was instrumental in his first decision, then got married in the WH, and then moved into the WH with her husband. free rent in the WH with all the perks that come with it, you go grandpa.
     
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  14. l_boy

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    I hope you are correct but I don’t think so. If he were going to do it it would have to be soon. Primaries start in a couple of months and would have to register for primaries, unless you decide to just bow out during the primary and let the convention sort it out, which hasn’t happened since 1968.

    Power and purpose are big motivators.
     
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  15. l_boy

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    I’d take anybody over Trump, but I’d only be ok with Haley or Christie on the R side. Definitely not DeSantis. Also I’d prefer nobody in the Bernie wing of the D party.
     
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    Wait till Mike Johnson tries to ban abortion nationally and ban gay marraige.

    It's coming. It's early but the right wing extremists are not liked by Independents.

    Biden sucks but Trump is an abomination.
     
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  17. AzCatFan

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    It's a year out, and Trump has some major vulnerabilities. One area to attack Trump is his anti-democracy and seemingly pro-authoritarian tendencies. We'll see after today just how hard the Ds can make abortion an election issue. And while people think our economy isn't doing well, the truth is different, and showing Trump to have built his empire on fraud (current NY trial) plus educating the public may make a difference.

    Lots of time between now and election day 2024. And it's not a binary choice yet. Biden should be worried about the recent poll, but it's not catastrophic. Just helps clear the picture of what needs to be done in the coming months.
     
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    Agree. While I wouldn't vote for Haley or Christie in a general election based on philosophical differences I would be comfortable with either one of them adding that Nikki Haley has an extremely small chance of winning the Republican nomination with Christie having virtually no chance between his "Bridgegate" stunt and even more significantly the fact that he has the balls to call out the Dear Leader. A second Trump term could very well mark the end of US as a constitutional Republican and if he is in office again the chances are that Ukraine would return to same status that it had under the Czars or the Soviet Union, i.e. part of Russia. If Haley should be elected she would uphold the Constitution and would continue to support the independence of Ukraine. DeSantis would most likely govern as Trump lite, not nearly as extreme as Trump but still probably playing fast and loose with the Constitution.
     
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  19. Bazza

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    Good segment from last night.....

     
  20. AzCatFan

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    Here's a little historical context. In November 1983, Reagan was trailing Glenn in the polls in a head-to-head and statistically tied with Mondale. The actual results? Complete landslide in favor of Reagan. In November 2011, Obama was trailing Romney and statistically tied with Perry. Actual result? Big win for Obama.

    Point is, polls a full year before the election aren't indicative of how people will actually vote in twelve months. A lot will happen before now and then, and while Trump seems to be a Teflon Don with his supporters, it's the people in the middle who decide elections.
     
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