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Three kids killed by shooter at Christian school

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Mar 27, 2023.

  1. pkaib01

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    Maybe you truly are in the "people prefer to use a less effective tool, even at risk of life and limb" crowd. Makes you wonder why there aren't more mass murders using butter knives.

    Regardless, in the last decade semi-automatic rifles were used in 44% of mass shootings with a 2x fatality rate. Assault rifles are used in 85% of shootings that result in 4+ deaths. I guess it's up to you to decide what the weapon of choice is for "killing lots of people".

    Would you advocate banning handguns first if our goal is to minimize deaths by mass shooters? Or to minimize the number of mass shooting events?
     
  2. ridgetop

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    I don’t advocate banning any gun. That’s the issue. Everyone wants to focus on the AR15… for now. And if it is banned the masss murders will continue with the 9mm. And then the cry will be for the 9mm ..a weapon of war no less… should be banned. And then semi auto shotguns… who needs five rounds of buckshot… shotguns are used in war… etc..
    It’s disingenuous to think banning the ar15 does anything. And the rhetoric that it is the choice of mass murders, a weapon of war, an assault rifle… is nothing more than an appeal the emotions instead of logic.
     
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  3. ridgetop

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    Provide data backing up your original claims.
    I didn’t point to the number of guns in the US. I pointed to the number of gun owners. (Legal) the vast majority of which are responsible, contributing citizens. Im not against background checks. I’m not against mandatory safety training. But that’s not what is happening. The hue and cry is for banning ar15. Or banning all guns. Some are all for confiscating all guns. That’s the issue. One side wants to use emotion to push the envelope as far as possible. The other side digs in and refuses to give an inch in fear of the mile that will be taken.
     
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  4. defensewinschampionships

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    Can you blame the side digging in?

    O'Rourke - "Hell yeah, we're going to take your AR-15"
    Biden - "Nobody needs an AR-15."
    Jean-Pierre - "The President believes they (Assault Weapons) should be removed from the streets."
    Behar - "We need to have the courage to do what Scotland did, what Australia did, what New Zealand did."
    Cicelline - "Spare me the bullshit about your Constitutional rights."
    Feinstein - "If I could have gotten an outright ban - 'Mr and Mrs America turn in your guns' - I would have."
    Emanuel - "We're bending the law as far as we can to ban an entirely new class of guns"
    Clinton (Bill) - "If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees."

    Make no mistake, the ultimate goal is ban and removal, by force if necessary.
     
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  5. Swamplizard

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    Update and still no manifesto release

    The ongoing investigation into the March 27 murders of six persons inside The Covenant School continues to show, from all information currently available, that killer Audrey Hale acted totally alone. In the collective writings by Hale found in her vehicle in the school parking lot, and others later found in the bedroom of her home, she documented, in journals, her planning over a period of months to commit mass murder at The Covenant School. The writings remain under careful review by the MNPD and the FBI’s Behavioral Analysis Unit based in Quantico, Virginia. The motive for Hale’s actions has not been established and remains under investigation by the Homicide Unit in consultation with the FBI’s Behavioral Analysis Unit. It is known that Hale considered the actions of other mass murderers

    Covenant Investigation Update
     
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  6. gator95

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  7. mrhansduck

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    According to the article, it seems that the document or portions of it have been leaked. Neither the police nor the FBI are commenting because the issue is still being addressed in the courts. My recollection is that some of the victims' families opposed it, for example.
     
  8. gator95

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    According to Fox it's the police department that didn't want to release it. Just weird.

    Nashville authorities 'aware' of purported leak of Christian school shooter's manifesto

    The National Police Association is involved in a court battle with Nashville's city and police department demanding the manifesto be made public. Officials there told Fox News Digital their case is still pending, and the documents did not come out in court.

    "I think it highlights the importance of getting the information out as soon as possible," said Doug Pierce, the Tennessee attorney representing the NPA in the case, who called the potential leak a "bombshell" but said he could not confirm the documents.
     
  9. mrhansduck

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    The Fox News article you posted says Nashville Police has been fighting in court but also says "and so has a group of parents from the school." I thought I had previously read something about victims' families opposing the release, but perhaps it was just parents of kids who go to school there and were not necessarily victims. Either way, it seems undisputed that there's been a legal fight about it, and that at least explains why it hasn't come out sooner. Also not clear to me if the entire document has been leaked or only part of it.
     
  10. channingcrowderhungry

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    These shooters can shove their manifestos up their cold dead ass. I'd rather we never know their names.
     
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  11. rivergator

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    You’re not curious to find out if they were angry, bitter and severely disturbed or not?’
     
  12. channingcrowderhungry

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    Obviously the only important thing is if they were severely disturbed Republicans or Democrats.
     
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  13. RIP

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    Is it a hate crime if you hate your own race?
     
  14. Gatorrick22

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    Judging simply by the negative-reppers to you sound post... we can see how many disgusting people there are posting here.

    Religion only matters if it's about the 2 "other" main religions. Let's see here... we have Islamophobia, and antisemitism... But Christian have no such protections.
     
  15. mrhansduck

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    I don’t see why not hypothetically but not sure if such official determinations are made when shooters are dead and there won’t be criminal charges.
     
  16. RIP

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    Yeah I meant in the hypothetical case that a shooter lives in this scenario.
     
  17. g8trjax

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  18. gator95

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    I think we all know if the shooter was a white supremist and killed black children that manifesto would've been leaked with 48 hours and the MSM would've setup shop in Nashville until it was put out.
     
  19. g8trjax

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    Wouldn't even take 48 hrs and Nashville would have been burnt to the ground.
     
  20. rivergator

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    The victimhood never ends, does it?