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Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

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  1. Gatorrick22

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    She is right about that too.
     
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    Was the London bombings a war crime first.... inflicted upon England by Germany? Was the unprovoked attack in Pearl Harbor a war crime by Japan on the U.S.A.?

    You cannot have it both ways... War is ugly...
     
  3. okeechobee

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    Hamas is almost universally regarded in the West as a proxy of Iran. Iran not only provides money, they provide weapons and strategic planning. Hamas being Sunni doesn’t change this. In fact, ISIS views Hamas as apostates, because they receive funding from Shia Iran. Which illustrates how lost Netanyahu is. Comparing Hamas to ISIS, when in reality, they are a very different type of enemy. Netanyahu has been deluded about Hamas for a long time and you seem to take your talking points from his government. I have nothing against him personally, but as the leader of Israel, he failed, massively.
     
  4. Gatorrick22

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    What a cannard...
     
  5. Gatorrick22

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    Man do I miss Trump's Israeli and middle eastern country peace deals from the White House...

    Now Trump is a man of peace and he proved that to be a dying art...

    Biden is STRAIGHT UP PUNK!
     
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  6. l_boy

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    I was responding to the posters quote about Obama and Iran.
     
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  8. tampagtr

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    Fun back to back in my Twitter feed. What an algorithm. Almost glad I let my Atlantic subscription lapse




     
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    And three down from those. This war’s psychological effect…

     
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  10. tampagtr

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    More from Fred Kaplan on settler violence

    Since Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, settlers there have killed more than 120 Palestinians and injured at least 2,000. They have forcibly expelled more than 800 Palestinians from their homes, blown up their generators and solar panels, and burned down tents of Bedouin herders.


    Again: This has been going on not in Gaza but in the West Bank—which is governed by the Palestinian Authority, not by Hamas. Some of those killed were members of militant groups, but most were attacked simply because they were Palestinians. In any case, they had nothing to do with Hamas’ attack on Israel from Gaza.

    Back on Oct. 25, President Joe Biden warned that the wave of attacks in the West Bank was “pouring gasoline” on the tensions unleashed by the war, saying, “It has to stop.” The killers “have to be held accountable.”

    Yet Israeli officials have since said nothing about the settlers’ violence, not even after at least one incident where settlers attacked Israeli soldierswho were trying to stop their crimes.


    Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Settlers Who Are Killing West Bank Palestinians
     
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  11. AndyGator

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    You are just too disconnected from reality. :rolleyes:
     
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  12. BigCypressGator1981

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    Rick took out his gators frustration on Biden last night.
     
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    You are giving him far too much benefit of the doubt. The problems go much deeper than a loss of a football game.
     
  14. tampagtr

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    Great essay by David Remnick in the current New Yorker. Opening and concluding graphs.


    In an era of darkness and blood, it is nearly impossible to remember that, from Moscow to Jerusalem, there was once a time of promise. Not resolution, not paradise, and certainly not the end of history––but promise. Between 1989 and 1995, the following things happened: the fall of the Berlin Wall and the liberation of Eastern and Central Europe; the collapse of Soviet Communism and the (seeming) end of the Cold War; the brief, but startling, appearance of a pro-democracy movement in Beijing and other Chinese cities; the end of South African apartheid; and the signing of the Oslo Accords by the Israeli leadership and the Palestine Liberation Organization.



    It may take years for a new political culture to take hold among the Palestinians and the Israelis. It may be many years before the psychic wounds heal. Right now, to most ears, talk of a “two-state solution” is nostalgic fantasy and a “one-state solution” a recipe for instant civil war. With all eyes blurred by rage and grief, an absence of vision is the reality. But, as the Palestinian academic Sari Nusseibeh put it to me recently, “People have to be shown or given options. We don’t have the option of being pessimistic.” At least one source of inspiration is that era of history, not so distant, when leaders and movements, for all their flaws and failures, agreed to agree, and fought for the rights of ordinary human beings to live in freedom and without fear. That is a process that is never fully achieved anywhere, but it cannot be relinquished to a state of despair.


    In the Middle East, Despair Is Not an Option
    In the Middle East, Despair Is Not an Option
     
  15. citygator

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    Charlotte
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    Apologies I've read several articles on the Obama administration's Iran policy but couldn't find any to include so I cleared it ... I thought.
     
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    Oh for sure. But he had an extra spicy run of shitposting last night.
     
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    I kinda wish they would just release it all for the holocaust denial crowd.
     
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    Bwahahaha. How many times have people posted information from the ADL, SPLC, or ACLU identifying the organizations of anti-semitism and racism in the US only to be dismissed by righties that dont give a shit? The GOP doesn’t care about Jews in the US. The only reason right wingers love them some war is because Muslims are dying. Seems cool to you guys. That’s not the same thing as supporting and protecting Jews in the US. If you want to support Jews, support those groups I listed.

    Here is a link to donating to the ADL.

    https://support.adl.org/give/174715/#!/donation/checkout
     
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