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Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

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  1. okeechobee

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    What do you think Israel was trying to achieve by asking Gazans to move south? Do you not realize Israel already knew Hamas and Egypt would tell Gazans to stay put? Israel was using it as a proxy to move Palestinians off of their land in Gaza permanently. Just as they knew Hamas would block Gazans from moving south, they knew as soon as they told Gazans to move south, thousands of Hamas fighters moved south through their tunnel network.

    Wake up. Read your history. This isn’t the first time Israel has attempted to force entire Palestinian populations into Egypt.

    We can argue about it until we’re blue in the face, but this isn’t going to work out to Israel’s benefit in the end. You realize this, right? Genocide versus not genocide is a moot point if your aim is peace and security in Israel. This ain’t going to bring it. Israel won’t be allowed to occupy Gaza for years while they “eradicate Hamas.” Because that is literally how long it would take.
     
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  3. okeechobee

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    Don’t get your history from a random white dude with a beard on X. Egypt doesn’t believe Israel should be able to move millions of Palestinians off of their land. To accept 2 million Gazans into Egypt would be to accept Israel calling all shots in the Arab world. It ain’t going to happen, bro.
     
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  4. duchen

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    Israel doesn’t want revenge. It wants Hamas eliminated. It has no choice. Anything less allows Hamas to operate in Gaza until they do it again and again and again and also sends a message to Israel’s enemies that the level of atrocity that was committed is acceptable— thereby exposing them to attack. Hezbollah backed down because it sees the consequences of action— Israel is massed in the Lebanon border and its superior air power would degrade Hezbollah. That wound undermine Irans goals on the region. So, Israel for existential reasons germane to the direct threat of Hamas and broader reasons must eliminate Hamas
     
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    This history is true. In Jordan, after the revolt, the Heshamites began to slaughter the Palestinians. They escaped across the border and the Israelis took them on.
     
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    They asked the Palestinians to move to a southwestern safe zone away from the areas in northern Gaza to Southern Gaza away from where the war would be fought so they wound not be killed. As noted in the posting above, 700,000 people moved.
     
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    The History identified in his look is accurate. From Jordan, to Lebanon to the Gulf War.
    Israel did not ask Egypt to take in Gazans. And if you know your history, you would know that Israel is aware of this. When Israel signed its agreement with Egypt returning Sinai, Egypt did not want Gaza. Here is a link on the expulsion from Kuwait. Kuwait Expels Thousands of PalestiniansKuwait Expels Thousands of Palestinians. And here is the history with respect to Jordan. The revolt was called The Black September revolt. Black September and the PLO
     
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  8. okeechobee

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    Your posts read like a meme.

    Says Israel needs to continue non-stop indiscriminate air raids on civilian targets inside Gaza to eradicate Hamas.

    Thinks Israeli troops amassed at the border will deter Hezbollah.
     
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  10. Gatorrick22

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    This WH is filled with Hamas and CAIR, and let's not forget the "puppet master" (Obama) is all in on The Muslim Brotherhood.

    Yep, our voters sure know how to "pick" our leaders... :rolleyes:
     
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  11. duchen

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    Of course, Hamas isn’t going to surrender. It counts on widespread civilian deaths in order for Israel to be accused of genocide, disproportionality, ethnic cleansing, targeting civilians. And pressure to stop and allow Hamas to continue to operate until it rearms and starts over. Has happened before, but not after the level of atrocity we saw 10-7. The tactic is very effective.
     
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    Adding to post 2966– n
    What is your suggestion as to what Israel should do to address Hamas and prevent what took place in the future? Your posts accuse Israel’s military tactics to be ethnic cleaning, but they offer no conclusion as to now to resolve what took place?
     
  13. okeechobee

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    Yep and then Israel attacked the southern Gaza Strip.

    Why is Israel attacking south Gaza after telling people to go there?
     
  14. okeechobee

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    Simple. Declare war on Iran. Eliminate the terrorist regime in Tehran. That’s where your root problem is. You won’t be able to “eradicate Hamas” anyway. It isn’t feasible. The pressure against Israel is already at a boiling point. The months of war and occupation it would require of Israel just to have a chance to decapitate Hamas will never be allowed to happen. Unfortunately, they won’t let you attack Iran either. After all, Trump might win the election or something horrible like that if we have to acknowledge war against Iran is for the greater good.
     
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    That's a consideration that is an advantage to Hamas... and Israel has to think and act like Hamas in this war.

    If I were Israel I'd post every video I can of the atrocities committed by Hamas on the Israeli men woman and children 24/7, so that more people can see what Hamas is all about with concerns about human rights that Hamas themselves violated on the innocent men, woman and especially the children/babies.
     
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    The clowns in the News business think that war is a game... where both "teams" have the same rules to play by, and neither side can use overwhelming force to win the "game" by killing more people on the other side.
     
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    All part of the plan... the big picture of the "reset" the Dems are talking about. A vote for the Dems here in the U.S.A. is a vote for Hamas... and their allies.
     
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    I agree with everything you have posted on this thread, but I am curious... Where did that arbitrary number of 200,000 people come from?
     
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    It does make you wonder why Jordan nor Egypt will accept any of their people's in to their respective countries. If these people are just Arabs then why are any Arab nations letting the Palestinians get away from those kinds of lock-downs.