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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. duggers_dad

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  2. G8trGr8t

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    Ummm..reparations? Will accept a few billion in free nat gas over next 10 years
     
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  3. G8trGr8t

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    Last one standing on the balcony?
     
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  4. cron78

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    And check the stability of all windows and balconies more than two floors up in buildings he frequents.

    edit: Sierra beat me to it
     
  5. chemgator

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    It used to be that the 15 members of the Politburo chose the new leaders. Now it might have to be by election--meaning that the leading candidates are now the two losers that Putin chose to run against: Leonid ("you ignorant") Slutsky and the really old guy, Vlad Geezerman.
     
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    Surely, though, they have someone designated to act as chief executive while a new leader is officially selected. Every state does, right?
     
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  7. chemgator

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    Every state in its right mind does . . .

    Actually, I wouldn't be surprised to see former president Medvedev or whatever his name is be acclaimed the new leader based on his previous high rank, which would make the nuclear issue very concerning based on his rhetoric.
     
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    I’d say Medvedev has undermined his own credibility with his rhetoric. He looks to me like a bully who only talks the talk.
     
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  9. duchen

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    I am concerned that the House will not approve the funding for Ukraine.
     
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    I understand. One fight at a time. The support in the House is so overwhelming by both parties, though, I think the Speaker would have to refuse the measure a vote, and he would lose serious support among the moderate Republicans (whom he needs). Let’s not worry about it until it’s something to worry about.
     
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  11. duchen

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    I hope you are right. But the opposition stems from Trump— who hates Zelensky for his selfish reasons. I can’t underscore how important it is to find Ukraine. I know you understand it. Putin is almost everything we fought in the Cold War. Except he is not a communist-sociakist. Then again, In the Cold War Soviet days, neither was the Politburo. Just the rest of the USSR. We can weaken them for decades. If they don’t leave Ukraine, they will decimate themselves. And if they do, they lose.
     
  12. G8trGr8t

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    seems like that might be the body double.
     
  13. G8trGr8t

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    interesting read. describes a layered assault to blind, disable, then attack russian air defense systems using a three phased attack beginning with drones and ending with supposedly accurate Neptune missiles taking out a sam 400 system and other unidentified high value targets. biased reporting no doubt, but interesting nonetheless

    In a Bold Strike, Ukrainian Neptune Missiles Destroyed a Key Russian Air Defense System in Crimea - The Net Worth Of

    In a rapid and precise move, Ukrainian drones targeted and disabled Russian radar equipment, blinding the Russian defense temporarily, a key element to their plan. Following the success of the drone operation, Ukraine unleashed a volley of cruise missiles, hitting air defense missile launchers and rendering them ineffective.

    Ukraine showcased the potency of Neptune cruise missiles, originally intended for naval use but adapted for ground targets. These lethal missiles found their mark, striking fear into the heart of the Russian defense.

    As the explosions rocked the occupied peninsula, Moscow remained notably silent. The Russian defense neither confirmed nor denied the Ukrainian assault.
     
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    They do. The prime minister, currently Mikhail Vladimirovich Mishustin, would become acting president for 3 months during which time an election is held per the Russian constitution.


    "There is no established procedure in Russia for leadership succession. (If the president dies in office, according to the constitution the prime minister becomes acting president for three months, during which an election is held.) Presumably, when the time comes, Putin will name a successor and hand power to him very quickly – as did Boris Yeltsin in December 1999. It is possible that such a transfer of power would be challenged by rival elites: but that is unlikely, since no one wants to repeat the chaos of the 1990s. But if Putin were to die unexpectedly, there could be a chaotic interregnum. There is no authoritative collective body, such as the Politburo of Soviet times, to choose the next president. The Security Council would presumably step into that role."

    The Ukraine War and the Putin Succession - NYU Jordan Center
     
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  15. chemgator

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    You mean, Vladanir Putrin?
     
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    It would be a hoot if a large number of F-16's with fully trained pilots showed up on the battlefield unannounced and started attacking. I don't know if you could smuggle in very many planes without somebody noticing, however.
     
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    F-16s to Russian AD is as John Reaves to Auburn.
     
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    This is the best opportunity we may have for a long time to destroy the Russian military. If the Russian military is not decimated by the end of this war, our defense spending might actually go up to counter both the Russian and Chinese military threats, as both countries are getting more aggressive and imperialistic, and of course, battlefield strategy and equipment are rapidly evolving.
     
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  19. G8trGr8t

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    there is a noticeable effort to degrade or eliminate the air defense systems in crimea. i believe the pilots are trained on the swedish fighters already which seem to be much more practical for this application and sweden said they would release them if they had cover of nato. erdogan messing that up with demand tht sweden extradite "terrorists" who oppose his rule. but maybe it is long term setting up for f-16's to be able to control the skies over crimea
     
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    deplete Russian military, hurt their economy, learn what of our armaments works/doesn’t work and without loss of US soldiers.
    Imagine how much our military would spend to do all that. And much of what we give them is older h/w
     
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