So we have a new House Speaker

Easy. Many of the older Cubans or their parents lived under and supported Batista who was the right wing dictator that Castro overthrew.

 

Love a dictator as long as he’s MY dictator

 

When I retired and had the means and freedom to choose where I wanted to live - I left FL for NC.

I find these claims of the huge influx of people to FL for political reasons laughable. When I moved to FL in the early 80s there was an influx ~ 1,000 people a day into FL (Graham had the good sense not to claim credit). Now those same 1,000 people a day are moving into the state it’s all MAGA and DeSantis. Stupid.

 

Florida Population 1900-2022.


Florida - Historical Population Data

Year

Population

Growth Rate

2022

22,244,823

1.91%

2021

21,828,069

1.10%

2020

21,589,602

0.45%

2019

21,492,056

1.12%

2018

21,254,926

1.32%

2017

20,977,089

1.70%

2016

20,627,237

2.02%

2015

20,219,111

1.84%

2014

19,853,880

1.55%

2013

19,551,678

1.29%

2012

19,302,016

1.29%

2011

19,055,607

1.11%

2010

18,846,143

1.04%

2009

18,652,644

0.68%

2008

18,527,305

0.87%

2007

18,367,842

1.11%

2006

18,166,990

1.82%

2005

17,842,038

2.45%

2004

17,415,318

2.42%

2003

17,004,085

1.89%

2002

16,689,370

2.03%

2001

16,356,966

1.93%

2000

16,047,515

6.20%

1999

15,111,244

1.36%

1998

14,908,230

1.53%

1997

14,683,350

1.78%

1996

14,426,911

1.70%

1995

14,185,403

1.60%

 

Thanks. Great info. FL population growth is just part of FL. Sand sun, low taxes, and the jobs that a rapidly growing population created are why people move to FL.

I took note from your data that the growth rate was much higher (2.66) in 1983 when I graced the state with my presence than now. As I recall pop growth back then was something the state reps and agencies tried to plan and mitigate for. Some of those Departments no longer exist, others were prohibited from saying or writing Climate Change publicly.

 

In one breath ya'll say politics has nothing to do with it, in the next you attribute it to low taxes and jobs.

 

Ya'll don't care about diversity or Hispanics.

You only care about establishing a coalition that furthers progressive causes. If that "diversity" is rooted in anti-Communist sentiment, you won't only not care about it... you'll dismiss their struggles and experiences through victim-blaming and what you would call bigotry in any other context.

Most of us have known this for a long time now, but it's nice to see people like you being so open about it for everyone else to see. Like all other things progressives like to pretend are rooted in principle... they're rooted in numbers and power, not principle. It's that simple.

 

It's truly astonishing. Some progressives on this forum are more likely to empathize with Palestinians supporting Hamas than Cuban expatriates supporting DeSantis.

 

Still waiting, 715. You asked a question. I answered and then asked you your own question, and you've refused to offer any answer. Is that a concession that you didn't ask the question in good faith?

 

GOP has a radical religious bigot in the White House, so all is normal.

Mike Johnson’s Wife Takes Down Website That Compared Being Gay To Bestiality, Incest


House Speaker Mike Johnson’s wife took down the website for her company, Onward Christian Counseling Services, a day after HuffPost pointed to documents on the site that compared homosexuality to bestiality and incest.


HuffPost reported Friday that Kelly Johnson, the wife of the Louisiana Republican and newly elected speaker, is owner and CEO of Onward Christian Counseling Services, which promotes Bible-based pastoral counseling. Her website featured a link to its 2017 operating agreement, which lays out the company’s corporate bylaws ― and states that the business is grounded in the belief that sex is offensive to God if it is not between a man and a woman married to each other.


It specifically puts gay, bisexual and transgender people in the same category as people who have sex with animals or family members, citing all of them as examples of “sexual immorality.”

 

The new Speaker also had money funneled to him from, of course, Russia. Let's see if he's willing to continue funding Ukraine. I bet he isn't.

All roads lead to Putin with the GOP.

 

No, it’s that I refuse to engage with someone who won’t talk to me in good faith.

 

Have you ever noticed that almost all of your posts are “other side bad”? Sure, I do it too sometimes, but with you it seems to be all of your posts.

 

Because all you guys complain about are things that your side is guilty of. And if me and the five other posters who think like me weren't here, we'd never talk about that. Just how bad the Orange Man is.

It gives one an awfully skewed perspective of the current dynamic in politics.

 

It would be nice for somebody on the right to actually articulate ideas, not that the other side is bad. The criticism isn’t usually even about the ideas, it is exaggerated stereotypes of what you think the other side thinks and who they are. And yes, and I understand both sides do it, including me. At least I try, on occasion to present and argue ideas.

 

I have. But in typical l_boy fashion, you just ignore it.

It's just a matter of fact that to understand a lot of what people like Ron DeSantis or Donald Trump do... most of the stuff ya'll complain about... you have to take it in context with the current dynamic in regards to institutional control in media, entertainment, and education. And you have to take it in context with the actions of Democrats and how they've created this stranglehold on both American institutions and culture.

If you don't understand that, and I don't believe you have any interest in understanding that, you'll never understand Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis. They are a short-term reaction to the current state of politics until things hopefully get better, not an optimal long-term solution.

 

Impressive. The Democratic Party has taken control of American culture. I guess you have to believe this. Because the other option is that American culture developed organically---which would mean your ideas aren't unpopular because of some conspiracy, but rather because the majority of people simply don't like them. If you came to that conclusion, suddenly, you'd be without justification for all the repression you've excused.

 

My ideas may very will be in the minority, but representation by media, entertainment, and education does not come close to representing over 40% of the country (at least).

Those institutions and industries just happen to be run by progressives who sneer at anything to the right of Stalin. This leads to influencing and indoctrinating our youth in progressive values. The idea is separating kids from their parents or turning kids against their parents in favor of the progressive values which also happen to be values that lead to cultural decay.

We have intimidation of both corporations and employees on part of the militant segment of the radical left. Bud Light was an example of conservatives fighting back. And why is that necessary? Because if progressives control education, entertainment, and media... and the bottom line of corporations if threatened based on some arbitrary nonsensical progressive value litmus test... the livelihoods of employees are threatened by cancel culture... this leads to a society in decay because the values stink, a society hostile towards conservatives and conservative thought, and a society in a vicious cycle spiraling downward because kids to greater and greater degrees are influenced by these institutions rather than their parents.

 

Big business is run by progressives? Our institutions are dominated by progressives? And they sneer at anything that isn't Stalinist?

You talk of societal and cultural decay. Is your theory that's happening because the majority of people are rejecting "conservative thought"? Which aspects of "conservative thought"? Low taxes? Free markets and trade?