Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

Protest only works if the intended recipient of the protest is capable of reasoned thought. I'm not protesting Hamas of the same reason I didn't protest ISIS when they were cutting people's heads off. There is no reasoning with monsters.

 

Right. Just pay the ransom and everyone is happy. Until next time. And when it happens again, just accuse the victim of escalation and slaughter. Maybe we should have stopped the slaughter in WW2 by allowing Germany to conquer Europe and Japan to control the Pacific? If you think that there is a difference, it is only because you devalue Jews.

 

Totally agree with the bolded part. The second part is laughably naive and I highly doubt Israel thinks this is possible. The airstrikes happening now are planting the seeds that will grow into the next generation of terrorism. They might not be called "Hamas" but it will be something else and they will do the exact same/worse shit or die trying to.

 

Because they won’t do it. And they won’t surrender. They will demand a prisoner exchange. And this will happen again.

 

It isn’t his solution. It is his point. That Isn’t happening. No more than Israel giving into the blackmail of terrorist kidnappers.

 

You are correct. I hate to be the harsh military guy here, but the only thing that has not already been tried (negotiating, compromising, land for peace, completely abandoning Gaza, isolating Gaza, begging, etc) has been to force Hamas to surrender. Now I know as well as you do that they are not going to just do that. And I know some among them would rather die than surrender. That’s fine. Israel can arrange that. Hamas — no matter how bad they might think they are — are just people. They are people who bleed, starve, and exhaust just like any other. Eventually someone will be in charge who sees the wisdom in surrendering to save his own life and those of his people. That has to happen this time. Hamas is counting on the international community persuading Israel to accept a ceasefire so Hamas can declare victory like it did last time.

 

Hezbollah’s chief hasn’t said one word. His silence says that doesn’t want his army involved in this. Because he knows that his position and Iran’s positron will be severely degraded in Lebanon and Syria. He also doesn’t control everyone as you can see from the launches from Syria and Lebanon

 

I think, stress think, that those launches are supposed to be for show/deterrent, calculated to show "resistance" without being dragged in.

 

I don't disagree with any of this but what do you think happens if Israel does beat Hamas into capitulation and manages to completely destroy them as an organization. Then we have peace? For how long?

 

I don't think these two groups of people will ever stop fighting each other as long as they are living within close proximity of each other. The only way I see lasting peace is if the Jews and Muslims are separated somehow.

 

A generation. Maybe whatever takes their place will be more interested in peace. Maybe not. I do know that Germany was a lot more amenable to peace after it had its teeth kicked in and the hardest of hard-core Nazis were dead.

 

That, too, had been tried. You do recall that fence that Hamas parasailed over, then tore down on their way to rape and pillage on 7 October?

 

Honestly what has surprised me the most is how anti-Semitic some of the left is. I knew some of the right was racist, but frankly this surprised me.

 

Yep, why don’t we have mass protests for that? Truth is because we have a lot of anti-Semites in our country.

 

The fringe left and fringe right are the same. Jews know this very well— we have to. Wherever we are we have no choice but to be aware of it. For me, it is scary when either have power. This is a very good lesson for our country. Things work much better when there is consensus

 

Depends on the groups. The ones who sing “from the river to the sea,” or who stood silent about Hamas or demonstrated against Israel after the attacks, clearly. Btw: who did the Palestinians support when Iraq attacked Kuwait?

 

Naive? You don’t think that
If Israel agrees to a ceasefire or a humanitarian pause like they have in the past that they don’t invite more or worse? There is a reason Israel has a cold peace wort Jordan and Egypt. And it is rooted in history.

 

Absolutely. I'm also Jewish. Jews are the only religious/ethnic/racial group that is attacked by both the left and the right.

 

And let's not forget for whom the Palestinians cheered on 9-11.
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