Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Grifter's gonna grift.

 

Please don’t harm young people!

And lol on masks. We knew long before Covid they were ineffective. Especially for a disease like this. Pure ignorance being led by charlatans!

 

If covid vaccines aren't vaccines, how can people have T & B cell protection from taking the shots?

What are they protecting anyway?

You still haven't come to grips with covid being a danger.

 

We literally pushed a new technology on an entire population. An entire population that a majority was at little risk. The shot clearly causes inflammation. At a rate never seen. I know you are not but AZ keeps trying to compare the side effects to the flu shot and they are not even close to the same. The flu shot does not knock people out of work. Fortunately the working class said no to boosters for the most part.

They have done a phenomenal job to cover up the dangers of these shots. If you were high risk. It could be argued early on the initial series was worth the risk. I supported them at the time for that group. I think the evidence has shown they should never have been authorized for anyone at this point. There has never been evidence these shots should have been authorized for young people. At least the rest of the world understands this and no longer pushes these shots on young people. Unfortunately the idiots here are beholden to big pharma and continue to push bad medicine. That said…most see it. And both Pfizer and Moderna are seeing that people no longer are listening the idiots in public health. I thought it was going to be 7% that would still fall for the propaganda. But after Pfizer and Moderna came out and said numbers are down from expectations. I now suspect it will be less than 5% who take the new booster.

 

I don’t know that anything, ANYTHING about virology is true …

Antibodies: No Correlation of Protection

 

This study looks at rate of side effects flu vaccine versus COVID vaccine. For the minor side effects, yes, the rates from the COVID vaccine are a little higher. But for major side effects, like GBS, the flu vaccine has more occurances.

Another difference is quantity. A lot less people get the flu vaccine versus those who received the COVID vaccine.

For comparison, the Shingrix vaccine has an even higher rate of the common side effects. But even a lower number of people who take it, as it's available for those 50 and older only.

To claim the rate of common vaccine side effects from the COVID vaccine is anything to worry about is stupid. No medical professional is worried about people feeling sore or getting a small fever up to 48 hours after any vaccination. This is common for all vaccines. Anyone who tells you otherwise is ignorant and misinformed to the point of being a danger.

 

You didn't answer the question/s. So let me ask in a different way.

How can a substance that stimulates the immune system/T and B cells to protect against a pathogen not be a vaccine?

Fact is that vaccines are substances that trigger an immune system response and activating the immune system will cause some temporary inflammation. This is not anything novel or controversial.

In any case, you know what else causes inflammation?

Exercise

And as with exercise, inflammation after vaccination is temporary for the vast majority of people.

You know what's worse and likely to cause more long term and damaging inflammation?

Covid

 

These shots were not effective because they were always archaic…

Let me guess. You got Covid after the shot.

 

Asked and answered. But you’d have to come out of your hole.

 

Neither of these claims is true. And again, you ignored answering my question.

You claimed that covid vaccines were not vaccines...yet you also claimed that people are protected via covid vaccines...yet you then claim they were never effective...while claiming that the virus that they don't protect against isn't dangerous.

Please untie this knotted reasoning. Thanks!

I've never had covid as far as I know.

 

Ever notice how some people refuse to answer simple, direct questions? Maybe because they can't?

It's also funny how they think people should listen to them despite the fact they have no advanced medical degrees and zero practical experience. In contrast, the doctors at the NIH, the WHO, Johns Hopkins, Nebraska Med, and others all have written basically the same article. Common vaccine side effects such as fatigue or headache that last less than 48 hours are nothing to worry about. In fact, they are proof the vaccine is working as intended.

And the COVID vaccine is a vaccine. The difference is the mRNA that invokes an immune response doesn't come from an attenuated virus like in traditional vaccines. Instead, it's isolated and only the mRNA along with inert materials designed to keep the mRNA from breaking down too quickly is injected in the body.

So again, we have what shouldn't be a difficult problem at all. Believing some schmuck with no medical degree and no experience. Or pretty much all medical professionals who do.

 

They did such a good job that they got you to post data showing that the vaccines were highly effective and not dangerous. Amazing the power that they have.

 

“Amazing the power that they have.”

You mean Pharma propaganda over the subservient mind ?

 

These shots provided a small therapeutic benefit. They were unnecessary for the vast majority of people. You don’t just pump drugs in people unless there is a reason. And there was not.

We literally coerced some of the healthiest people to take a drug they did not need. That is the antithesis of medicine. In fact it is not only wrong. But evil. It is why and how we have caused generational damage to medicine. You don’t coerce people to take a drug. Especially a new drug. And especially people who are at little to no risk.

I know you understand this is personal for me. I have seen the harm first hand.

 

The data shows that older people with comorbidities died whether they took the shot or not…

 

The data you posted showed that older people with comorbidities who had been vaccinated died at a lower rate than older people with comorbidities who had not been vaccinated.

But you haven't posted any data in over a year, maybe things have changed?

 

Now that just about every Brit has been vaccinated … the dying has just begun …

The main news headline on the BBC Scotland pages on October 24th 2023 was: ‘Winter death toll worst in more than 30 years.‘ This refers to last winter, 2022-23. This is nearly three years after the ‘once in a century’ pandemic and two years after the population was jabbed to ‘end’ said pandemic.

Winter Death Toll Worst in 30 Years, Reports the BBC. What, Worse Than in the 'Pandemic'? – The Daily Sceptic

 

I know that it was personal for you. I'm not knocking you about it. But let's flip that and take my experience in getting jabbed four times. Whose experience matters more, yours or mine?

The answer is neither of ours because it's not about our individual experiences per se, but about reducing risk in the aggregate. On that point, covid is the far larger and demonstrably greater risk than vaccines, which makes sense because vaccines don't actually infect people with disease. But because they train the immune system to respond to disease, thus activating that immune system, there are effects in the body. For the vast majority, these are mild and temporary. On rare occasion for some people, there are unfortunate serious adverse events. But vaccines can't and haven't infected over 100m and killed over 1m people. What they've done is significantly reduce that sickness & death when people get infected. Even without controlled study that digs down deep into the numbers, top level numbers show this significant difference.

The effort to reduce sickness & death is why almost every country around the world has worked to get their populations vaccinated, including those under 18yo. That is public health in the face of a worldwide pandemic where vaccines have become central to the fight when the underlying pathogen has demonstrated the destructive power to kill millions in short order.

Here are the numbers from the CDC, based on documented reports from about 65% of state public health agencies, including all large states. Every vaccinated age group, even 65 & over witnessed significant reductions in absolute number of deaths & death rates compared to unvaccinated in the same age group, while serious adverse events from vaccines are at a minimum 7x lower, but in some situations upwards of 30x lower from vaccination compared to infections.

 

The only age group that matters when it comes to risk/harm/benefit is 65 and older when it came to pushing a new drug like this…

 

Really?

There were over 60k more covid deaths among unvaccinated ages 5 - 64 than vaccinated based on the above data. If we had a full count, that difference is arguably much larger.

Every country "pushed a new drug" because the threat was far more damaging--nature of infectious disease, specifically one that is a novel animal virus not previously spreading among the human population.

Worldwide, nearly 7m dead and 700m infected in 2.75 years, both almost certain as well to be undercounts. Literally, every human has risk, regardless of age, even if young people have considerably less risk of death.