We’re in the wrong business (payout to former Arky OC Dan Enos)

You're right. It was more an answer for those who haven't been around as long and don't know how our threads sometimes wander a little.

 

Books are something I could participate in a long discussion about…..

 

Not that what's going on here is a problem at all, but maybe a good time to remind folks that @g8orbill oversees another forum here at: GatorTail Pub & Grill | Swamp Gas Forums

It's for general, non-political discussions on anything not specifically sports-related.

I'd jump in a discussion about books since I read so much.

 

For whatever reason I limit my participation here to SwampGas and Recruiting. I am sure there are many great discussions over in the Pub but if I got caught up in that I’d be spending even more time playing on this silly phone!

 

A bunch of talent and no organization doesn’t work either. The pay scale is what it is at this point. Having to pay an entire roster has to affect the future coaches paycheck though. It all comes from the same pool of money and there is only so much to go around. There’s a reason qbs in the nfl make way more than coaches but there’s also a reason college staffs get paid alot. Their job is endless at a major university, pro coaches get a break.

 

You’re probably the only person here who would still pay Rashada $3 million for anything.

 

You are missing the salient point. WHEN you pay Rashada $3M and give the rest of the team way, WAY less, you no longer will have a team that will get you to a bowl game.

 

A great QB will easily win you at least 6 games and make you bowl eligible. I’d much rather spend my money there instead of on a retread garbage coach.

 

You are...in the minority. By a LONG ways. This group of fans would NEVER think that a 6-win, $3M per annum middling QB business model is workable.

Just to assist you, it is human to believe that the grass is greener on the other side.

 

That’s fine with me. Most fans are old timers used to the old guard of paying coaches big money to be average or flat out suck, and think “Ho hum, that’s just the way things have always been and that’s that.” I think that type of thinking is crazy and have no problem thinking outside the box.

 

Old (I know) and wise saying:

Be careful for what you wish. You just might get it.

 

The qbs I’m sure are getting a much bigger slice nationwide and 3 mil is not buying a championship roster. Look at the way nfl rosters go as far as money and downsize tgat considerably but it’s still significant. 3 mil ain’t buying much.

 

The NFL is NOT major college football. WAY different dynamics. The NFL has, besides a QB who makes too much money, 53 players. Major college football has 85 scholarship players. There is NO WAY these models can be compared.

 

They work much the same just on a smaller scale. After 53 players, those guys probably aren’t getting very much money. I guarantee the top 10 quarterbacks in college football getting paid quite handsomely.

 

The money for those isn’t coming from the same sources though lol. It’s not really an either/or.

In general I don’t get why programs are using millions in NIL on HS kids instead of targeting already proven college QBs in the portal with it though. If it were up to me I’d put it toward Hendon Hooker rather than Nico Iamaleava, for example.

 

They compare only slightly. Not only are we talking about WAY different money amounts but when you scale the amount reserved for the players, yes you pay a "proven" QB or pass rusher a much larger amount but the others are not going hungry. What is being bantered is spending $3M per for a Rashada, an obviously NOT proven commodity. I also used Manning as an example. He isn't starting for UTx. There ARE no guarantees from the HS level.

And yes, this can change, but college players can leave after one year whereas the NFL players have contracts that extend and in some cases the team may do things like franchise them. WAY different setups.

But still, the real point of my OP was that you begin to go down the path of paying one or two unproven HS players a BUNCH of money and the others a bit more than pizza and trips home money, resentments WILL manifest. And if you aspire to get to one of the playoff spots, having resentments will not work, IMO.

All this has been is to get some folks here to stop believing that the grass is greener on the other side. Incompetent (actually mediocre) or lazy coaches being paid a lot is not good. Paying a lot for a couple of mediocre and self-centered HS players is not good either.

 

Anthony Richardson is a good example of an unproven player getting paid a shit pot full of money much like Machado would’ve gotten paid in college. And if you look at our recruiting class right now and you think these guys are getting paid in pizzas and trips home to see mommy you’re way off base.

 

Merely to make a point and not do the real investigation work. They are patently NOT making $3M per or close to it. There is NO WAY anyone, except for maybe the Texas teams, can afford 85 scholies and that kind of payroll. This really isn't rocket science. If you have a couple of entitled guys and a bunch of minion types, your team WILL not be what you want it to be.

 

What would you guess that Alabama, Florida, Ohio State Georgia, USA, what is their payroll each year?

 

Last year, Ryan Day said Ohio State would need $13 million in NIL to maintain their current roster, though their reported NIL deals at the time only added up to about $3 million. I assumed that Day's number was exaggerated, he was talking to a booster group IIRC, but it was oddly specific so its probably in the ballpark. I assume $10 million is a good guess for the Bama, Ohio State, Georgia type programs.

Ryan Day says OSU needs $13M in NIL money