No, but that's a way to pierce the attorney/client privilege as opposed to saying it doesn't exist. I'm not suggesting you aren't correct. I was addressing the statement that the privilege doesn't exist if the attorney is not actually hired.
I'd bet my life savings Trump didn't actually read the book. Must have been discussed on Fox and Friends
I don't think it would keep him off the ballot in the Republican party since political parties are usually considered private entities which can set their own rules.
FWIW. I look forward to Mayor Giuliani spearheading the legal effort to defend OUR RIGHT to FREE and FAIR ELECTIONS! Rudy Giuliani, Joseph diGenova, Victoria Toensing, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis, a truly great team, added to our other wonderful lawyers and representatives! 9:11 PM · Nov 14, 2020
it wan't a bumbling mistake, it was a hit placed with Putin to take out people who might testify against trump and/or expose russian secrets
Rudy, Sidney and their unofficially adopted daughter Jenna. It could only be a matter of time before Rudy joins the other members of his unofficial family and flips. Edit: Jenna hasn't flipped yet either although based on what she has said about Trump that's a virtual certainty.
Jenna Ellis just flipped although her decision is probably the least surprising among those defendants that have flipped.
Weird how few people want to go to jail for trump and how they go from legal advisors and tactical planners to barely known passers-by in an instant. Ivanka?
"Ellis pleaded guilty to one felony count of aiding and abetting false statements and writings. She had been facing charges of violating Georgia’s Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act and soliciting the violation of oath by a public officer, both felonies. She was sentenced to five years of probation along with $5,000 in restitution, 100 hours of community service, writing an apology letter to the people of Georgia and testifying truthfully in trials related to this case." Jenna Ellis becomes latest Trump lawyer to plead guilty over efforts to overturn Georgia's election For those who thought this indictment was lacking any merit, note that's three (3) lawyers now who have pleaded guilty to parts of it.
Man if you look at a picture of her now vs a few years ago, these last few years have not been kind to her:
Just a question that's popped into my mind recently and maybe some of you have thoughts. How much can or should we read into the relatively light punishments thus far? Not so much whether they're fair but will it be difficult to argue and possibly deemed disproportionate if prosecutors seek to throw the book at Trump when the lawyers and architects of the scheme are getting off with probation? I know they tend go after the small fish in RICO style cases, but I don't consider these folks to be ancillary or low level either. I also suspect we may see differences between the Georgia state case and the Federal case in terms of pleas and potential sentences? Maybe that's a variable here too?
Stress will do that. But then again, I looked better several years ago too and I haven’t had the burden of working for trump and that pack of rabid hyenas.
Interesting Inmate Number P01135809 can still get people to work for him. How many of his attorneys have quit, run into issues with the courts, damaged careers. Not to mention he’s notorious for not paying people who work for him
With RICO cases, the first ones who plead guilty get the lightest sentences. Powell got away with no felony convictions. Chesebro and Ellis did not, though they both avoided any jail time. The deals that involve no jail time are likely drying up sooner rather than later, and there are no more deals without felony convictions left on the table. It's a great strategy for prosecutors to secure guilty convictions for all involved. A playbook that Guiliani is very familiar with, and I wouldn't be shocked if his lawyers are trying to work out a deal. Also wouldn't shock me that the no jail time offers aren't available for Guiliani, and even if the sentence is just something like 60 days, that would send a message that leniency time is over.
Apparently, "You might have to go to prison for me, and I probably won't pay you either way" is an effective negotiation pitch.
