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Was Derek Chauvin Wrongly Imprisoned?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Contra, Oct 22, 2023.

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  1. orangeblue_coop

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    Precisely
     
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  2. gatordavisl

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    Bringing out the heavy weight shucksters now, ehh?
     
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  3. l_boy

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    Well this changes my mind completely.
     
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  4. gator_lawyer

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    Nope. That thug, Chauvin, is exactly where he should be.
     
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  5. gatorchamps960608

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    Oh well, if Tucker or one of his guests says so... :confused:

    Hey, why did he and his former employer lose a big lawsuit about the last election?
     
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  6. G8tas

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    Contra has gone off the deep end. Sorry guys but they are too far gone to be saved
     
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  7. murphree_hall

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    They got the exact reaction and attention they were seeking, IMO. We took the bait.
     
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  8. G8tas

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    No I appreciate the post. It helps me to know who when to add to my tin foil hat list
     
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  9. Contra

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    I wasn’t seeking any kind of reaction necessarily…I just thought testimony under oath in a court that questioned the legitimacy of the autopsy report used to convict Derek Chauvin was newsworthy given how big of a story that was the first time around.
     
  10. antny1

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    Love it. Have an extrem right and an extreme left poster disagreeing with this lol
     
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    Two comments. First Chauvin had no knowledge of Floyd's prior criminal history and even if he did it wasn't his role to retry Floyd and impose the death penalty or giving him the benefit of the doubt employing a procedure to subdue Floyd which could have (and did result) in Floyd's death most notably Chauvin's decision to continue to apply pressure to Floyd's neck after Floyd stopped resisting. Also as previously mentioned Floyd's attorney presented evidence of Floyd's history of drug abuse as well as his postmortem toxicology labs and the jury still found that Chauvin's actions were the proximate cause of Floyd's death.
     
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  12. GatorJMDZ

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    Absolutely apples and oranges. Babbitt was justifiably killed in the course of actively trying to facilitate the infliction of great bodily harm or possibly death on innocent members of Congress, their staff and family as well as law enforcement officers. Floyd was killed over the $20 theft of cigarettes using a counterfeit bill.

    Putting those two individuals in the same paragraph suggests a complete inability to assess totally different situations.
     
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  13. AgingGator

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    I have to work hard to have too much sympathy for either one of them. The only reason I have some sympathy for Floyd was because he didn’t deserve death for either this incident or for his criminal past. Chauvin should never have still been in uniform. We can all thank police unions for the fact that he was.

    Two dipshits whose paths unfortunately and tragically crossed that day. I’m sure that Floyd’s drug use fell somewhere between “didn’t help” and “contributed to” his death that day. With 18 complaints of excessive force with two disciplines, Chauvin was a ticking time bomb. About the only thing positive about this incident is that they did each other in without harming or killing anyone else.

    I also never understood the hysteria. The flames were definitely fanned by the usual suspects. But Chauvin was immediately suspended, fired the next day, and arrested the next. The wheels of justice were turning and fortunately, unlike many other high profile cases, Chauvin was not overcharged to where a conviction became difficult.
     
  14. AgingGator

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    Justifiably killed while being shot through a window you mean. The officer who shot her through that window should have been charged.
     
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  15. gator_lawyer

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    You're in your home with your family. A large group of people are trying to break in and shouting threatening things. One of them breaks your window and starts to come through it with a big group behind them waiting to follow them through the broken window, do you think you have a right to shoot them to prevent them from entering?
     
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    As the "extreme left poster," Chauvin was much more than negligent. At a minimum, he was reckless, which is why the jury convicted him of murder. And modern-day lynching absolutely fit.

    As an aside, y'all clearly don't know many "extreme left" folks lol.
     
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  17. 92gator

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    Floyd was alive before Chauvin parked his knee on GF's throat. The world heard Floyd's repeated cries for help. And then he died. If fentanyl was the COD, how was he still alive while Chauvin parked his roughly 200 lbs on Floyd's throat? While acting under color of law? Absolutely unacceptable.

    Not only is this no hill to be dying on, it is a radioactive dump.

    Let it go. Chauvin bought every ounce and inch of that radioactive shitpile that doubles as his burial plot.
     
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  18. pkaib01

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    Can you imagine reducing a context to "shot through a window" in order to support your position? Disingenuous at best.
     
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  19. AgingGator

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    Once the first torso enters the window pane it’s getting hit. But even as much as I might want to, I can’t shoot someone through a window who isn’t aiming a gun at me.

    We have glass inserts in our front doors and I have given this scenario a lot of thought. Again, like Floyd, wrong place at wrong time doing stupid shit, but not deserving of execution.
     
  20. Contra

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    I agree that Chauvin’s behavior is unacceptable, but forging evidence to secure a conviction is not something to turn a blind eye to. The government needs to be above reproach when it carries out justice.

    Government officials should be sitting in jail right next to Chauvin if the testimony given in court under oath is accurate.
     
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