Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

The despair of feeling like the region and the world is an existential doom loop.


Israel simply cannot accept leaving an organization on its border that sent a psychotic group of pure butchers to its citizens. (It's unclear that South Israel can be made comfortably secure even if Hamas is evicted).


Israel cannot evict Hamas without massive deaths of innocents, and without substantial IDF losses and with some risk of non-success, in whole or in part.


That will likely draw in Hezbollah, although it's unclear how all in they will go.


That will likely bring in the United States, if nothing else to try to work left of launch.


A Chinese destroyer task force in the area (technically visiting Oman) will be able to monitor the effectiveness of all the systems, especially if Hezbollah tries to attack a US ship, and learn.


Iran may shut off the Strait of Hormuz, which they can (just the proclamation will make transiting tankers uninsurable and effectively shut it down; think flights into Israel).


And history tells us there will be hundreds of other effects that cannot be anticipated, many of which will be horrible, possibly including some fatal or nearly fatal wounds to democracy.


So much death, so much misery, and seemingly unavoidable.

 

I don't doubt the news but that seems completely illogical. Not because Hamas is too nice, but the thought of stopping mid attack to formulate some compound just makes no sense. I have to read more, especially expert analysis, but are they transporting the constituent elements and recombining them? How are they going to deploy it? Who knows?

 

AOC accuses Israel of committing ‘war crimes’ along with Hamas

AOC really needs to surround herself with better staffers. The definition of a “war crime,” for instance, is not any act of war that AOC does not like or understand.

 

Is a siege a war crime according to the Geneva convention?

 

. Let’s see if there are many who live in her District have good memories about 9-11 or lost relatives that day.

 

Can’t fix stupid. Simple as that.

 

Nope. Neither are other military operations on urban terrain.

 

No, but you can probably mitigate it with good staff work.

 

all over religious differences separating people.

 

Iran can’t cut off the Straight of Hormuz. And it is going to get even harder for them when The Eisenhower carrier group heads there. It will no longer be off the coast of Israel. Saw a report from an NBC Pentagon reporter that The Pentagon was surprised that the Houthis were able to launch cruise missiles. Translated: the Pentagon assess that those are Iranians. There have been Upticks in attacks on US bases in Iraq. Very clear what the US is doing now

 

This is a war over land. At this point, religion to a large part is the excuse.

 

For Israel, it is a war for security. For Hamas, it is a war to kill Jews and drive Jews out of Israel.

 

Iran has had an ass kicking coming for 44 years. I hope they get very soon.

 

You may hope as much you like. Iran would have to cross some serious, unmistakable lines to get this Administration to consider using force. And Iran won’t. They are doing what they need to by playing the periphery. Absolutely not in their interest to bring on a direct American war.

 

I have recently heard from several sources (pro Israel ones) saying some of the blame for this lays with Netenyahu. Apparently over the years he deliberated preferred funding of Hamas over the Palestinian authority, because it drove a wedge between the two of them, and without a unified Palestinian front the chances of ever having to do a two state solution were zero (which he didn’t want).

 

It won’t officially be by the US.

 

Depends where it is coming from.

 

I am avoiding disunity on this. So I won’t criticize Netanyahu. But Israeli policy has been to upgrade Gaza economically. Israel has allowed people into Israel across the border at the checkpoints. They worked in the south. That is one way that the terrorists had so much information about the communities that they attacked. Gazans worked there. And of course upgrading Gaza cones with knowledge that Hamas’ position is improved. It isn’t to create disunity. Hamas and The PA are already at odds. It was too make conditions in Gaza better so that the incentive for terror would be reduced. The policy is now obviously an abject failure. Arabs and Jews work more closely together than many in the west understand. One reason for all the check points in Israel in general is to avoid terrorists taking advantage of the movement into Jewish areas. The checkpoints and walls began to be installed in the early 2000s after the intifada. Also, the PA is notoriously corrupt. And the sad reality they the PA knows is that it would have to govern and the money to “end the occupation” wills dry up if it had its own country. And it depends in the Israeli army to put down revolt against it