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Was Derek Chauvin Wrongly Imprisoned?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Contra, Oct 22, 2023.

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  1. gatorchamps960608

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    No. /end thread
     
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  2. orangeblue_coop

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    If you stumble, fall and hit your head, I don’t think that’s considered murder. That’s just being clumsy. Maybe she had a few drinks or took drugs before she decided to illegally trespass on government property.
     
  3. sierragator

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    In the magaverse, Chauvin is the real victim.
     
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  4. GatorJMDZ

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    She was the victim of a homicide.
     
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    It is tough for me to shed a tear for a thug who a few years previous stuck a gun in a pregnant woman's gut while committing a crime. Oh but he was reformed LOL. Yeah passing counterfeit bills while on illegal drugs is reformed. All this has been argued a million times.
     
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  6. sierragator

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    So you're ok with summary executions. Very diagnostic.
     
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  7. orangeblue_coop

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    He’s okay with it as long the person being executed looks a certain way. Which is why he’s very sympathetic towards Ashli Babbitt but not George Floyd.
     
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  8. VAg8r1

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    Her death was an act of murder only if one considers the shooting of a person by a law enforcement officer who was the point of the spear in an organized attack on Congress ginned up to the point where they (attackers) could very well have killed multiple members of Congress had they had the opportunity.
     
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  9. VAg8r1

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    Agree although you omitted an important qualifier.
    She was the victim of a legally justified homicide.
    FYI
    Justifiable homicide. n. a killing without evil or criminal intent, for which there can be no blame, such as self-defense to protect oneself or to protect another or the shooting by a law enforcement officer in fulfilling his/her duties.
     
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  10. rivergator

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    1. Is anyone asking to you?
    2. This isn’t what the thread is about, is it?
     
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  11. GatorJMDZ

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    I was just trying to suck 51 in, I'm extremely familiar with what the word means and I didn't need to include that qualifier. Homicide is simply an intentional killing, not a death resulting from accident or natural causes....exactly what happened to Babbitt. The only time one would include your qualifier is if you're using the term around people who don't know what it means.
     
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  12. docspor

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    you don't seem too upset with the BIG GOV thug killing someone while getting taxpayers' money. speaking of not reformed (& further screwing the people)

    The city of Minneapolis agreed Thursday to pay nearly $9 million to settle lawsuits filed by two people who said former police officer Derek Chauvin pressed his knee into their necks years before he used the same move to kill George Floyd.

    Minneapolis to pay $8.9 million over Chauvin's actions prior to George Floyd's killing
     
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  13. BLING

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    It’s his right to appeal.

    But he also pled guilty to federal charges, and his federal sentence is concurrent with the state charges. So… appealing the state charge seems kind of moot?

    I guess he can hope for a win on appeal (already lost his appeal, I’ve read it would be unlikely for the Supreme Court to take this up), and then some future “conservative” President pardons him from the federal sentence to own da libz.
     
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  14. Trickster

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    I've no problem with your post except insofar as you seem to be suggesting Chauvin got a raw deal. He didn't, in my opinion. The new information doesn't change that opinion.
     
  15. stingbb

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    I, for one, little sympathy for a drug abusing career criminal who had been jailed previously for sticking a loaded gun into the stomach of a pregnant woman. I also have little sympathy for someone who was killed storming the US Congress. Two people from different walks of life who unfortunately made some really bad decisions that did not turn out well.
     
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    Bottom line is the overdose theory was presented at the trial and jurors had the evidence and made their decision whether one agreed with it or not.

    My recollection of the video was Floyd was clearly intoxicated. There was much discussion of the “I can’t breathe” but nobody mentions he was saying I can’t breathe when he was in the back of the cop car, by himself.

    It wouldn’t shock me if the drugs in his system contributed to his demise. But regardless what Chauvin was doing was wrong and even in the best case scenario it was failure to treat. People in the crowd could see that he was in distress as well as the other officer.

    However I have always thought that the other three going to jail was not appropriate.
     
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    I won’t go as far as you do but my sympathy for Floyd is limited. His actions did get him into that position, and he had a checkered history (which I understand is not legally relevant ). I thought the effort to make him into a hero was a bit over the top. But he didn’t deserve to die.

    none of that changes the fact that Chauvins actions were deliberate, negligent and wrong.
     
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  18. orangeblue_coop

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    And I feel the same way about Derek Chauvin. I have little sympathy for a murderous scumbag cop who had a history of treating suspects like crap, he’s exactly where he belongs.
     
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    Back the blue no matter who. Unless they go against Trump of course
     
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    Tucker Carlson talking about this story.
     
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