Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. You can’t intentionally kill a 1000+ innocent, unarmed, people then complain when innocent people on your side die.

 

Thing is, anyone can change or add audio to a video clip, these YouTube post are completely untrustworthy … have to wait until something credible comes out, if ever.

 

Twitter Poster “MyLordBebo” — using the tag line “ Anti Woke, Anti hypocrisy, Anti fake news! “ — is the left wing media?

 

WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

 

It was Islamic Jihad. Different group but the same. I am not referring to the media. I am referring to the Arab and Muslim world. No deal Israel or the US has made with any of those countries is any good now because of a blood libel.

 

What makes you say it “sounds very much like a JDAM?” A JDAM is a just an air-delivered bomb with a GPS-guidance package attacked. It isn’t any kind of special bomb that wouldn’t cause a crater or damage surrounding buildings. The evidence that this is not a bomb dropped by the IDF still appears much stronger.

 

I have seen a lot of reference online to the purportedly telling sound. I may be ignorant, but my understanding of JDAM, or Joint Defense Attack Munition, is that it refers more to the form of GPS guidance that can be attached and is not unique to one form of bomb. Different bombs in different sizes can be JDAM. I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong. And I am presuming that the different bombs would have different sound signatures if they drop. But again, I have not listened and do not know.


I will make two additional points because I've already probably said too much. I do regret that I seem to have been validated that this was a big deal.

First, Israel has been about his open source on this as I have ever seen a power being in that situation. They have released a lot of data open source which can be deconstructed if it is false.

Second, more so than the sound, what still seems incongruous to me is the fact that it seems to have hit a parking lot, whatever it was, with no obvious evidence of an ammunition dump, and seems to have immediately caused such a big fireball. That is hard to explain. But it also didn't create a crater as you would expect from a bomb.

But at least in my opinion, the far greater weight of the evidence is that this was not an Israeli bomb but an errant missile.

And of course there's the fact that Israel has been the main party delivering any kind of ordinance to the Gaza strip and they had already said that they reserved the right to hit the hospital. That obviously cannot be ignored.

 

You beat me to it while I was typing.

 

I agree with you about Hamas having no right to complain. But for the rest of the world, it would be horrible if Israel had deliberately bombed the hospital. I don't think they did. But I do think the rest of the world would have the complete right to condemn such a bombing, just not Hamas

 

Correct. That would be a logical assumption before the evidence got in. I cannot blame anyone for immediately assuming that

 

. Hamas says it killed 500 people. They also said it was an Israeli strike and have stuck to that. What verification is there of the alleged death count? This has ignited the Jew haters who have been waiting to blame Israel for killing civilians while staying silent about murdered Jews.
And now all deals are off based on lies.

 

Wonder how many more of the deaths in Gaza were from Hamas weapons.

Who really expects a “report” from Hamas to be truthful and accurate ?

 

I saw another article that said 300. I wouldn't be surprised if Hamas exaggerated the number. In any event, it was a LOT of people. I saw another video I wish I hadn't watched. Literally an entire field littered with bodies including children.

 

Definitely not a bomb impact. Still unclear what caused the immediate fireball. That still is not explained.

From TASS

 

I'd certainly trust your take over any one else on this board. I haven't the foggiest idea what these weapons sound like nor what an impact crater looks like etc.

 

Bless your heart.

 

Just read that there was rocket fuel in the parking lot. Seems to indicate a malfunction shortly after launch. The absence of cratering at the site rules out an aerial launched bomb.