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Former Sen. Ben Sasse Takes Office as UF President and now announces he is retiring

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Feb 6, 2023.

  1. 92gator

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    jk.

    You may delete .

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  2. gator_lawyer

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    To me, cronyism has a narrower definition than having an advantage in the hiring process because you have a connection at the place you want to work. When I think of it, I think of somebody in a position of power hiring people of questionable qualifications into desirable jobs without a competitive process because they're his buddies.
     
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  3. docspor

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    what we don't know & prob will not know is if this was negotiated up front. this may have been part of Sasse's org deal on or off the record.
     
  4. docspor

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    can some one link me to the crying when Napier - talk about questionable credentials - hired AA for what .5 mil & the rest of his army of staff? Thanks in adv.

    we can hire a football coach & give em carte blanche, but god forbid a former PUB prez hires a few VPs.
     
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  5. gator_lawyer

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    If Napier hires incompetent assistants, they all get the axe eventually. Gator fans are not known for accepting bad coaches.
     
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  6. docspor

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    ok. but, it is ok for him to do the hiring in the first place, right? Who picked Kamala Harris?
     
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  7. gator_lawyer

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    When they hire the HC, they usually allow him to pick the staff. Is it okay for him to do it? Sure. If he hires unqualified buddies, odds are he'll find himself without a job sooner than later.

    Who picked Kamala Harris? The American people. ;)
     
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  8. docspor

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    So, you've no objection. It seems letting him hire his own peeps is incentive compatible as you've clearly laid out. I'm sorry, I thought you were against Sasse hiring his own peeps.
     
  9. gator_lawyer

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    I don't really think of the two as comparable. But yeah, if UF gave him that incentive as part of his hiring, I'd say that was a failure of the Board of Trustees, rather than Sasse himself doing something wrong.
     
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  10. docspor

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    it was YOU that implied lettin' the boss hire their underlings is a good thing. see #227. I agree. It eliminates scapegoats. Aside: Do you not like Sasse?
     
  11. docspor

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    you should go find the thread RE: Sasse being considered as UF's prez. Cuz politics were all that seemed to matter.
     
  12. gator_lawyer

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    It is me who said it's okay to defer to a football coach's judgment on which assistants he'll hire, even if that means he may hire unqualified buddies. Because in the end, he'll be held accountable for it. I didn't realize that just because I believe a football coach can do that, it means every person in a position of power in our society should.

    I'm not a fan of Sasse. Although, frankly, we could have ended up with worse.
     
  13. docspor

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    noted.
     
  14. slayerxing

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    This whole argument is dumb - Uf needs the best possible people in these positions. They hired two people to be VP's that aren't even going to come to Gainesville. How in the hell are they going to understand the institution if they aren't here? Now I'm all for remote work - but you took two outsiders, with almost zero experience at a major R1 public research institution, and put them in VP positions. What kind of sense does that make? I'll answer my own question - it makes no sense. EXCEPT - if you wanted to make sure you could trust your VPs. Then for sure, yeah I get it, hire your former employees and friends that you have rapport with. But that doesn't make them automatically good at their jobs or even the best possible candidates.
     
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  15. docspor

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    I think best in this context is very weird cuz of the critical notion of complementarities. Putting the 3 best in an abs sense together could be a disaster & most likely would be. Coming to Gville sounds good, but you have failed to motivate that. You have failed to motivate why being physically present is necessary to understand the institution. I'd say Thomas Pynchon's understanding of post WWII Europe is without peer in so many respects & he spent virtually no time there & none in the direct aftermath of the war giveing he was a toddler. Is your arg even internally consistent? Being the BEST & being willing to come to Gville???? I get the vibe that peeps don't like Sasse & are working backwards from that.

    this is pure politics. no one gave a shit about any of this pre Sasse. Oh dear, this might not be the optimal hire! My stars, I think UF has devolved into - cronyism. Overpaid assclowns might never set ft in hogtown. Oh my goodness.

    exposed.

    perhaps I am starting to understand why diplomas are made of sheepskin

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  16. dave_the_thinker

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    On the surface I'd agree with you @gator_lawyer, but I would bet that if you dig into their personal contacts you'll find he hired them for the same reason he did when he was a Senator.

    Having an uncle on the Appropriations Committee is a great qualification if you need to bring in $$ for your cornfield of a state, or a top-tier public university. Hope it works. Go Gators.
     
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  17. WC53

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    I thought remote work was bad, but now it’s good? So confusing. New job, new employees, absent a complete change in responsibilities you need to be on the ground.
    Now personally, I think a no show job is great ;)
     
  18. slayerxing

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    Politics has nothing to do with it at this point. Who cares? His politics haven’t effected his leadership as far as I can tell. We had obvious issues with prior regimes too. What glover was allowed to do as provost is criminal. His mismanagement the last few years is of his own office is comical. I think we were all hoping sasse would be different but he’s just more of the same, but providing even less direction and vision than past admins so far.
     
  19. channingcrowderhungry

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    So, nobody has asked you what the 4th action was? A bunch of uncurious folks up in here.
     
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  20. G8trGr8t

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    Perhaps because they hired a politician instead of someone experienced at running a university.
     
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