Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!
  1. Gator Country Black Friday special!

    Now's a great time to join or renew and get $20 off your annual VIP subscription! LIMITED QUANTITIES -- for details click here.

AR Considering season-ending surgery

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by GratefulGator, Oct 15, 2023.

  1. antny1

    antny1 GC Hall of Fame

    5,136
    2,662
    2,498
    Dec 3, 2019
    Yeah. Get a grip. Touch grass. Feel the sun on your face. It's ok
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  2. tripsright

    tripsright GC Legend

    608
    286
    1,688
    Dec 2, 2021
    Florida
    Lol…. I’m actually outside, laying in the grass, feeling the sun on my face, as I type. Thx!
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. gator_lyn

    gator_lyn All American

    374
    157
    1,763
    Oct 28, 2017
    Colts are in rebuild mode anyway, they weren’t doing anything this season

    But it would have been nice to see more of AR than just 3 games. If they had about 8 more games the Colts would know a lot more about what they have in AR
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  4. antny1

    antny1 GC Hall of Fame

    5,136
    2,662
    2,498
    Dec 3, 2019
    I don't even disagree with your take about his time at florida minus some of the venom. It also doesn't have anything to do with his nfl performance so far.

    I've always stated I thought AR had some bad advisors that got in his head. I blame his camp more than him
     
    • Like Like x 4
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. tripsright

    tripsright GC Legend

    608
    286
    1,688
    Dec 2, 2021
    Florida
    I agree, to an extent. I just don’t see it as a reasonable excuse for his selfishness. But, yes, it seems people around AR convinced him that playing for the paycheck was acceptable behavior. However, imo a person that’s invested in his program (school), and teammates, doesn’t allow that to happen. I’m sure AR would point to 39 million reasons why I’m wrong.
    Also……venom?? How is it venomous to note things that are visibly obvious? If he didn’t play for his teammates at UF, AR is likely to display the same selfishness at the NFL level. It doesn’t bode well for his ability to lead, and/or win.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  6. ETGator

    ETGator Long-Time Gator Stuck In East Tennessee Moderator VIP Member

    13,049
    8,233
    3,213
    Sep 15, 2007
    We don't insult Gator players. Current or former. Saying someone was selfish and that he played only "for a paycheck" and not for his team is one of the most insulting things that can be said about someone playing a team sport. Your opinions might be exactly right but they may also be exactly wrong because of other factors we don't know. Either way, as long as it's pure speculation, please tone it down and discuss factual observations. That's all. Thanks!
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
    • Like Like x 2
    • Winner Winner x 2
  7. orangeblue_coop

    orangeblue_coop GC Hall of Fame

    4,296
    713
    2,938
    Nov 19, 2016
    Way to go out on a limb and call him a bust after he suffers a season ending injury. You were noticeably absent from the Colts game threads when he was performing well tho LOL
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  8. tripsright

    tripsright GC Legend

    608
    286
    1,688
    Dec 2, 2021
    Florida
    Fair enough
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  9. tripsright

    tripsright GC Legend

    608
    286
    1,688
    Dec 2, 2021
    Florida
    I was calling “bust” before he ever started a game for the colts. I didn’t ever see the leadership it takes from AR to win at the NFL level.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  10. orangeblue_coop

    orangeblue_coop GC Hall of Fame

    4,296
    713
    2,938
    Nov 19, 2016
    Yet you were noticeably silent during his first couple of games, and magically popped up again once he’s declared out for the season. I’m guessing when he returns next season and plays well you’ll go ghost again LOL

    And the Colts brass saw plenty of leadership qualities in him, I bet his current and former teammates do too.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  11. tripsright

    tripsright GC Legend

    608
    286
    1,688
    Dec 2, 2021
    Florida
    1. I bet you can’t recall me ever dragging a UF player.
    2. I bet you can’t recall me ever being negative in a UF game thread.
    3. I’ve never participated in any NFL game thread.
    4. I don’t show up on any GC thread to disparage players or coaches, in general.
    5. I should have found a better way to voice my opinion of AR.
    6. I’ll take your bet on the “leadership” seen by former teammates.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  12. hoyt233

    hoyt233 GC Hall of Fame

    6,694
    2,396
    2,198
    Aug 31, 2009
    Prattvile, AL-Go Lions!
    Ignore that guy-he's from the THFSG sewer.
     
    • Disagree Bacon! x 2
    • Funny x 2
    • Winner x 2
    • Agree x 1
    • Come On Man x 1
  13. tripsright

    tripsright GC Legend

    608
    286
    1,688
    Dec 2, 2021
    Florida
    Lmao…..Me, too! I love Too Hot. I’ve learned lots of great info over there.
    As for @orangeblue_coop , or @antny1 , I’m never going to have an issue with someone defending a UF player. I really should have found a better way to state my opinion.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 2
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  14. tommyvee

    tommyvee GC Hall of Fame

    17,530
    9,286
    3,293
    May 16, 2007
    [​IMG]
     
    • Funny Funny x 4
  15. tommyvee

    tommyvee GC Hall of Fame

    17,530
    9,286
    3,293
    May 16, 2007
    Many feel the way you do about AR at times last year. He seems to be in his own world sometimes. But I actually watched parts of that FSU game last year and saw how much he played his heart out in that game. He definitely had his moments.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  16. paidinfull

    paidinfull GC Hall of Fame

    6,065
    1,472
    2,038
    Feb 22, 2017
    There were definitely moments, but I think that just reinforces the opinion that he wasn’t always all in. Where was all that effort in every other game? Even in that game, you only saw that real drive on a couple plays.
    While their skill set may have been questioned, nobody ever questioned the effort or drive of guys like Franks and Emory. Those guys gave us their all, and Graham is doing the same this year.
     
    • Winner Winner x 3
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  17. orangeblue_coop

    orangeblue_coop GC Hall of Fame

    4,296
    713
    2,938
    Nov 19, 2016
    All good bro, we are all entitled to our own opinions. At the end of the day Gator success is all that counts.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  18. orangeblue_coop

    orangeblue_coop GC Hall of Fame

    4,296
    713
    2,938
    Nov 19, 2016
    Nice contribution to the thread topic
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  19. RealGatorFan

    RealGatorFan Premium Member

    14,993
    7,703
    2,893
    Apr 3, 2007
    I've been saying that for over 2 years. He's spent almost as much time in some medical contraption than playing time. That was against small players but now it's against the best of the best and the biggest of the biggest. This is his 3rd injury of the short season?

    As a scout, I would have warned GMs that nabbing him is bad money - better off getting him cheap in the 4th or 5th round. Love the young man, but he's going to be on the IR more than on the field for his entire, very short career.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
  20. volungator

    volungator All American

    This