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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. QGator2414

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    I have never seen someone controlled so much into living in fear like we are witnessing!
     
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  2. AzCatFan

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    Fear? Try data. I would like to say I'm shocked at the level of willful ignorance presented on this thread as an example of man kind from people who call themselves educated. But then I'm never shocked by the depth of stupidity shown by man over the generations.
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    You are not following the data my friend. But you do you. Just don’t harm young people unnecessarily!
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    The utter inanity (and barbarity) of believing that other people can breathe on you and kill you and expecting them to undergo potentially risky pharmaceutical interventions so they can’t.
     
  5. AzCatFan

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    Keep telling yourself that to make you feel better. I'll post the study results again, and again, and again, but I know ignorance is bliss. And you must be so happy about your position, that you refuse to acknowledge what the data actually says, which is the vaccine cuts pediatric COVID hospitalization in about half. Meaning vaccinated kids are 50% less likely to end up in the hospital than unvaccinated.
     
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  6. duggers_dad

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    Whether through isolation studies electron micrographs or transmission studies, viruses can’t get any traction.

    Indeed, the Mother of all Pandemics, the so-called Spanish Flu couldn’t make anyone sick when they tried to make it make other people sick …

    https://x.com/frankie_an81465/status/1713907077104419130?s=61
     
  7. citygator

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    This thread never disappoints for entertainment. The intelligence level between two groups has never been more pronounced in a debate than this thread.
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    Please just do not hurt young people.
     
  9. duggers_dad

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    Both groups think very much alike on a fundamental level. They both believe you can cough and kill Grandma.
     
  10. l_boy

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    I am pretty sure that is true but has little to do with those graphs. I have seen some data where Covid outcomes tend to be worse if you are obese, but it isn’t enough to account for the mortality differences in those graphs - not even close.

    It is an interesting argument - “we” arent dying more because we are unvaccinated. We are dying more cuz we’re fat!
     
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  11. AzCatFan

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    Please stay in your lane. If you want to blissfully choose ignorance, that's your right. I'll choose data and science every time.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    I’m not vaccinated and have never gotten Covid.

    Ask me how!
     
  13. jhoge53_

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    I'll tell you how -you are stupid but lucky. It is like a historian said about debating a holocaust denier - you slap them down and they come up with more BS. It is like trying to nail jello to a wall. I am 68 years old and gotten my flu, RSV, and COVID shots as is recommended by my primary care doctor. Try reading The Great Influenza by John Barry - maybe the best account of the spanish flu. Very educational as to what a virus is , how is it transmitted from one person to another, etc.
     
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  14. duggers_dad

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    What do you want ? A chewy and a belly rub ? Nothing lucky about it. I just never got tested for an imaginary disease.
     
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    Obesity (and/or age and/or comorbidities) does not cancel out vaccinations' significant effects in lowering covid death rates among the vaccinated.

    Rather, those factors help explain covid's deadliness & why differences in death rates b/t vaxxed & unvaxxed are not even more divergent.

    Another way to put it, obesity/older/comorbid increases the risk of death from covid. Vaccinations decrease that risk...for everyone.
     
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  16. QGator2414

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    I am in my lane.

    Please do not harm young people unnecessarily. You know they are at no real risk. You know they are almost certainly going to get covid regardless of whether they take the shot. Do not be controlled by the propaganda and make a bad decision. Especially when it comes to kids who have no say!
     
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  17. AzCatFan

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    You should give your kids up for adoption, never have any more, and never be around anyone who has kids. You are harming them by giving advice for which you have zero education, zero data behind your assertions, and zero understanding on how science actually works. You being around kids is a danger to them and all future generations. Please, give up your kids and never talk to another one again.
     
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  18. QGator2414

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    There is a reason 95% plus of those dying with covid are fully vaccinated. It is because that group was the high risk group and they took the shot by in large. The comorbidities play a significant role as well with that group. Hence even your Offit's of the world are no longer taking the shot.

    There is no evidence these shots should still be taken. And with treatments now...there is no need. But there will be 7% or so that take it. Starting to think it will be closer to 5% as pfizer just lowered expectations due to people saying no more.

    Pfizer trims expectations for 2023 with sales of COVID-19 vaccine, treatment, weaker than thought - ABC News (go.com)
     
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  19. QGator2414

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    My kids know far more about this than you. And they are fortunately part of the majority of kids who never had one of these shots put in them. I understand how some parents early on fell for the propaganda. For the less educated I still have sympathy for those that fell for the propaganda and put a booster in their kid. For the educated. You have to just shake your head if you put a booster in your kid. I want to give the benefit of the doubt. But at that point you are a charlatan most likely (though propaganda is powerful)...
     
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  20. duggers_dad

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    Should children be taken from parents who intend to vaccinate and/or transition them ?
     
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