Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

Not sure if you’re serious. Or trolling. So I’ll pass

 

I doubt any of us really know how many actually support Hamas' attack on Israel, but I seriously doubt that it's the majority that some here project. Sure Hamas was elected by the people back over 15 yrs ago but there have been no real elections since. Further half the population is under 20 yrs of age and they certainly didn't vote for Hamas.

No matter the level of Hamas support, hell is about to rain down on Gaza. That is life in a war zone for all, innocent or terrorist. Sad times.

 

I googled "viper driver" and it shows a golf driver.
Sorry, thought you were talking about golf as your post was a little ambiguous.

 

Yeah, that’s going a bit too far. It is impossible to speak to what two million people want individually.

 

Says it all regarding Hamas

 

So, what is the solution?

 

A Marine was plotting to bomb an Indiana mosque. Then his plans took a surprising turn | CNN

Unable to contain his anger, he went to the Islamic center that day in 2009 on what he saw as his final mission. He was going to plant a bomb at the mosque in hopes of killing or wounding hundreds of Muslims. He was on a scouting mission to pick a location to hide his bomb and to gather intelligence that would validate his assumption that Islam was a murderous ideology.

“I told people that Islam was a cancer; and I was the surgeon to cure it,” he says.

But when McKinney entered the mosque, he encountered a form of resistance that he had not planned for. Something happened that day that would change him in a way he never expected.



The people whose lives he intended to take would end up saving his life.

 

Wouldn't be the first time. I recall such accusations in a Nigerian conflict not long ago.

 

Considering Trump nailed ISIS and Iran, he has earned the right to critique Netanyahu. Anybody claiming this wasn’t a massive failure on Bibi’s part is whistling past the graveyard. Regardless of WHY Bibi held back, he had Israeli teenagers partying at a music festival 3 miles away from Gaza on the 50th anniversary of the YKW and NO security anywhere in sight!! As many have alluded to, if we didn’t know any better, we’d say Netanyahu wanted it to happen.

 

What a powerful story, doc. Thanks for sharing...

 

He probably is, though this course of action alone won't address why he's right.

You're right, civilized people murder children with bombs and bullets, not those barbaric hand tools.

 

I agree with some of what you posted. But how did Trump "nail" ISIS and Iran? Just curious...

 

ISIS formed a caliphate under Obama. Trump wiped out the caliphate. Previous presidents had thought about taking out Soleimani. They were scared to do so. Indeed, many brashly predicted Iran would declare war on the U.S. when it was learned Trump had dispatched Soleimani. Iran lobbed a few rockets at our troops, scored zero kills and shot down a Ukrainian commercial jetliner, killing all 176 on board.

Trump made Iran look like the incompetent fools that they are. No other POTUS has come close to making Iran look that bad over such a short period of time. So yeah, Trump gets a lot of leash on his running middle eastern commentary. He can actually back up what he says with his resume.

 

Well, if I’m right, then throw me a “winner” or “best post ever.” Good Lord. I shouldn’t have to ask.

 

The taliban never left Afghanistan, they still controlled large parts of the country while we were still there. They did lay low for a while once Trump promised them we would leave soon and ordered massive troop drawdowns and release of thousands of TB prisoners

 

The meme of Golda Meir that I posted wasn't in reference to Muslims or Palestinians in general, it was specifically in reference to Hamas. As a point of information below are excerpts from the Hamas charter:

"[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility." (Article 13)

The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him." (Article 7)​

While Meir made her statement long before the current version of Hamas came into existence she was referring to radical Palestinian organizations that also had same goal i.e. the destruction of Israel not a negotiated peace in which both sides would make concessions so that they could peacefully coexist.

 

While ISIS was formed when Obama was president he had nothing to do with its formation and by the time Trump took office ISIS was driven from around 75% of the territory that it controlled at its peak. I would also add that Trump sold out the Kurds who played a significant role in the defeat of ISIS suffering the deaths of over 12,000 of their troops in the war against ISIS.
Syrian Kurds see American betrayal and warn fight against ISIS is now in doubt

The unexpected announcement by President Trump that he will draw down the U.S. military presence in Syria to make way for Turkish troops was greeted by the Kurds as a betrayal of the trust established during the fight, which has cost the lives of more than 12,000 members of the Syrian Democratic Forces, the joint Kurdish-Arab militia formed to battle the militants.​

 

An excellent account of some of the Hamas techniques to achieve surprise, the experience of survivors in southern Israel, and the ad hoc counterattack put together by elements of the IDF, retirees, reservists, and civilian volunteers.

The Secrets Hamas Knew About Israel’s Military

 

So here is the alleged architect of the attack. Think this through. Even though the attack went about as well it is could go for Hamas, Iran is taking heat and possible going to have the 6b frozen. Do you think for a minute that if Iran didn’t know about it ahead of time and the possibility of them losing 6b they wouldn’t kill everyone involved in planning ? They may do That anyway to cover themselves.

Who is El Deif, alleged mastermind of the Hamas attack? | CNN

 

Interesting video from October 7. Some of the Hamas terrorist invaders speaking in Russian.

Advance to 1:55 if you don't want to watch the entire thing.