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Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gatorrick22, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

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    Charlotte
    o_O
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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  3. uftaipan

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    This is correct. Recommend we move on.
     
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  4. Orange_and_Bluke

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    My apologies.
     
  5. G8trGr8t

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    reality is that the worst atrocities committed throughout history have involved religion. the species would be much better off without religion and the division that it creates.
     
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  6. wgbgator

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  7. BLING

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    He’s the leader of your political party. Let us know when that changes.

    Let’s put it this way: You expect us to give a shit about what some irrelevant nutbars on the far left say on the Israeli-conflict. But simultaneously want us ignore the sociopathic crazy a Presidential candidate spouts off… because… reasons.

    Definitely no deflections going on there….
     
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  8. wgbgator

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    They would erase themselves too, c'mon, this is insanity.
     
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  9. wgbgator

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    How many states have terrorists conquered and annexed?
     
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  10. sierragator

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    Consider the source, they are into the martyrdom thing.
     
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  11. wgbgator

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    States don't martyr themselves, that's for suckers you convince to die for you
     
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  12. duchen

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    All it takes is regime change for any country not antagonistic to Israel to become antagonistic. For example, Egypt was heading that way when the Muslim Brotherhood was voted into office. That changed again when the Army took over. But Egyptians chose the Muslim Brotherhood. Turkey had joint military exercises and cooperation with Israel for years and then Edrogan moves Turkey in a different direction. You undersell the existential threats to Israel.
    For people like you, Jews defending ourselves is an atrocity. We aren’t marching off to death camps anymore without fights. And those who slaughter us will answer for it.
     
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  13. duchen

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    100% of Lebanon. Iran. Parts of Iraq. Cuba.
     
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  14. wgbgator

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    There is no country capable of 'wiping Israel off the map' militarily (particularly when they are tied at the hip to the US & the EU), I think people are tossing around "existential" threat extremely lightly (you are now extending it to hypothetical regime changes!). Ukraine is holding off Russia with less aid and less commitment from the US and EU.
     
  15. wgbgator

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    I see well if you can just call any group of revolutionaries 'terrorists,' lets put the USA on there too. Those Sons of Liberty killed their rightful rulers! The Chinese too, everyone gets to be a terrorist! Ireland, since Sinn Fein came to power! South Africa because the ANC came to power! Who can forget Nelson Mandela's terrorist state!
     
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  16. tampagtr

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    Great, great thread. I am not endorsing all. On one quick read, I would quibble with 20% of the factual history, including key omissions (obviously can't cover all - it's about choices; mine would be different), and maybe 40% of his conclusions (fails to consider a priori assumptions in his analytical framework).

    But still well worth reading in terms of quick succinct history

     
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  17. tampagtr

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    Do you think that citizens vote for parties any reason other than foreign policy towards Israel?
     
  18. apkgator

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    Post 1280 points out tht Israel must end Hamas, not kill all Palenstinians, and that it will be a lengthy process? Which is EXACTLY what Israeli military leadership is saying. How can that be construed as defending Hamas in any way?
     
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  19. wgbgator

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    Exactly, I think it had more to do with their historical status as an opposition group at home in the case of the MB
     
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  20. apkgator

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    Lol, this can't be that hard. I specifically addressed that there is no support of the actions of Hamas. You can't find any so go spinning around with stuff you decided "amount to approval". Nice little rant though, hopefully it didn't give you a heart attack in the process
     
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