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Miami vs. GT (Upset Alert) [Must See at #21 . . . LOL!]

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by Brodeur, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. FranceGator

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    Near the end of that video, one of the guys said "Miami hasn't won a game out of a bye week since 2016. 0-7".
     
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  3. Endless Excuses

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    There are more people in that stadium for the interview than there will be at their next home game…
     
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    The call stood, which means there wasn’t enough video evidence to overrule the ruling on the field. Not sure what the replay refs had access to at that point.
     
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  5. tommyvee

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    Mario wants to prove a point that they are tough enough to not play scared.
     
  6. GatorNavy

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    This reminds me of a Temple vs Navy game I attended in Annapolis. Navy was down 21 points in the 4th quarter and rallied back to within 7 with about a minute left and no time outs. Temple had the ball and instead of kneeling, ran a rushing play, fumbled and Navy recovered and scored. Navy went on to win in OT. Sometimes coaches do stupid things.

    Edit: I neglected to mention the Temple coach at that time was Al Golden.
     
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  7. Distant Gator

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    Especially if those same coaches are not too bright.
     
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    Translation: When I send my player to run the ball, for no real reason, I expect him to cover for my dumbazz mistake.
     
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    It's easy to spot on the road... it's the short bus.
     
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    Miami--Short Bus 1.jpg
     
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    Whether he was down or not is irrelevant as he should've never had the ball. Why leave it up to a kid not to fumble and the refs to get it right, when all that had to be done was kill the clock by kneeling?
     
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    I wouldn't say it's irrelevant, but it is a separate issue. It's ok to both question the play call and question the determination of the fumble. Certainly that's what we would be doing if it were the other way around; Ga. Tech "fumbling" to lead to a Miami last second victory.

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  13. UF24ou14

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    No, I'd still be questioning the ludicrous decision by Cristobal which led to the fumble, which led to allowing the officials to end up contributing to the outcome of the game. The refs didn't lose the game; this is all on Cristobal, no matter how you look at it. Had Tech's coach made the same moronic decision, I'd feel the same way.
     
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  14. cocodrilo

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    Cristobal didn't have a crystal ball.
     
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  15. tommyvee

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    I agree, but it’s Cristobal’s way of coaching to win and not scared to lose. Like someone said, he’s not kneel all year with the lead. Whether or not that’s smart football is another question.
     
  16. FranceGator

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    Yep. Fans want coaches with guts who don't play scared. But only when it goes well. When "high risk" doesn't work, out come the knives.

    Case in point for us: the half-back pass. "Billy is too safe, what happened to scared money etc." Then: "That was the stupidest...what was he thinking..."
     
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    Dumb money don't make money.
     
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    In my head--- UF
    This wasn't an issue of playing scared. It was just a stupid decision.
    Only decision was to kneel.

    HB pass was a ok imo
     
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    Two comments on this whole hilarious incident.

    First, for those saying Mario does not play scared, I ask “what are you talking about”? Every situation in life has risk/reward. If you are up 3 TDs with 30 seconds, run the ball. There is no risk. But in this case there was NO reward, only risk. It is like someone offering to bet you on a par three that you will not get a hole in one and if you make the shot, you get $1. But if you miss it they get your house. Sorry, there is such a thing as playing scared, but that is just stupid.

    Second, as to relevance of the fumble. Coaching decisions are made at a point in time with an unknown future. Can a pass be tipped, a player fumble, trip, shanked punt, etc. Yes! On Saturday teams have a primary goal - bring home a win. All other goals are subordinated to that. There is a simple calculus here - do you want a player to kneel and end the game or get hit to end the game? Both end the game but one has a much higher risk of a fumble. If Mario threw it over the middle for a pick six to lose, does that cross the line of stupidity more than running it? Again, this is a game of risk/reward and statistically creating any chance of risk for no reward IS the issue. You cannot know the future but you can see a car coming down the road and step onto the sidewalk. Especially if you get paid very well to…. Win games! Mario chose to whistle walking down the middle of the street and got plowed by a bus.
     
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  20. UF24ou14

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    That wasn't guts, and it was high risk at a time when risk actually cost them the game. It was just stupid play calling. And the Billy analogy is a ludicrous comparison. One was during the game with more necessary than just running out the clock, the other was stupid. I haven't seen anyone saying the pass was stupid; just as I haven't seen a miami fan blame anyone but Cristobal.
     
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