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Another good (?) Jobs Report - Sept adds 336K jobs

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by exiledgator, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. VAg8r1

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    And one political party (hint it's not the Dems) is largely responsible by the growth in the wealth gap.
     
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  2. wgbgator

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    Sure the country has become a hellscape of neoliberalism in the preceeding years and democracy itself is in crisis, but at least the human suffering helped the economy
     
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  3. G8tas

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    No but they did revise August's numbers to show there were 40k more jobs added than initially reported
     
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  4. tilly

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  6. mutz87

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    No. Revisions are usually for the previous two months (e.g. Aug & Jul). Though sometimes even more months will be revised after receiving additional data.
     
  7. duggers_dad

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    Even though I didn’t blame Biden … there needs to be seal-barking about Trump.
     
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  9. dangolegators

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    Yeah, the difference between a thing costing 30 cents more than it did a year ago instead of just 20 cents more is huge. We need to create a lot of economic pain to correct it.
     
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  10. mutz87

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    And July numbers were revised up by 79k.
     
  11. thomadm

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    CPI is close to 3.7-4.3% for the year, its up 0.6% in August, with food being the biggest culprit. Inflation is still above 3%, which with more folks working will increase spending, causing further inflation in the overall economy.

    Mortgages are now above 7.5% for a 30year, and will likely rise. The middle and lower classes are absolutely getting killed.

    Here's why the shockingly good jobs report is going to cost you | CNN Business
     
  12. ThePlayer

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    Government jobs were more than Business Services, Retail, Manufacturing and Construction COMBINED.
    And when you look under the hood further...
    151,000 of those jobs 'created' are part-time
    Only 22,000 are full-time job holders
    123,000 of those totaled have multiple jobs
     
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  13. gatorchamps960608

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    Try being wrong less.
     
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  14. mutz87

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    Where did you get those numbers?
     
  15. ThePlayer

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    Financial news outlets.
     
  16. tilly

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    Yeah. That jumped out at me too.
     
  17. l_boy

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    I don’t think inflation has consistently been 3% for 18 months. Years ago the fed target for inflation was a 2% cap, but then they changed it to 2% average.

    The thing people fail to realize is once inflation breaks out, it isn’t necessarily easy to keep it in check. It is harder to have consistent 3-4% inflation than 1.0-2.0%. With 3.0+, you can get data points that are 5-6, and then you are worried that a trend may be starting.

    If you go back to the 70s there were a lot of ups and downs - inflation got high, then trended down, but then went back up again. That experience is the driver of the Feds determination to beat it back down, permanently.
     
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  18. citygator

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    Powell should be fired. Raising rates would be insane.
     
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  19. citygator

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    Let’s really look under the hood. Full time employment is at a historical high. Part time employment is lower than under Trump pre pandemic.

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