Border Wall

When you are intellectually dishonest (and maybe disabled due to advanced age) the only way to grapple with an opposing opinion is to accuse your opponent of being something evil. These leftist clowns only have one trick.

 

People who overstay a visa, or enter undocumented and don't ask for immunity are committing misdemeanors only. They aren't invaders, and don't require a military response. And if they do surrender to ICE and request asylum, they aren't even breaking a law.

The people crossing the border also include children, often as young as 3 years old, or younger. Do you fear these kids too!

So much fear. Zero compassion. It's quite unfortunate. Let's kill the brown people "invading!"

 

This is typical of political rhetoric today. Long ago, the debates were over policies and principles. Today, it has devolved into nothing more than personal attacks and insults. It is nothing more than political drivel disguised as intelligent thought.

 

Lol, this has got some folks all riled up! Pretty simple, a year out from an election and the democrats must be getting monkey hammered in polling and focus groups on the border. Hell even CBS evening news ran a lead story on the border crisis.

 

Yep, not some video game where an impenetrable wall covers the entire length of the southern border, complete with gun turrets, razor wire, electric wire, moats with alligators, and pots of boiling oil ready to be dumped on anyone who dares to try to scale the wall. It's not 1350 any more. Do we need to address the issue? No doubt. Appealing to the basest instincts is not the answer.

 

If you disagree with something, label it rascist. Are all human traffickers, members of drug cartels, and potential terrorists “brown”?

 

Gee, if only there was a way that an entrepreneur could have a ladder and go with the person to the wall with the ladder and then upon finishing in getting the person to the other side get his ladder home. Let's see if we could come up with a business plan that could allow such an obviously complex transaction to occur. That is quite a complex business model you are being asked to think about there.

 

Whatever you want to call them, do you think there is a problem or should we just let anybody who crosses in out of compassion?

 

So you agree your analogy was dumb. Good. Glad we are on the same page.

 

Expanded guest worker program. Everyone who comes in must register. And if they are of working age, must be gainfully employed and paying the visa fees within no more than 3 months. Also must pass a basic background check. Can't fulfill the guest worker obligations within reason? Then it's time to deport.

We've had a demand for immigration labor for generations. We used to have an effective guest worker program too (Bracero). Let supply and demand for labor be the deciding factor. Again, it's what the bipartisan group in 2007 and the Gang of 8 in 2013 came up with as the best solution. It's still the best today.

 

So I imagine I have you ignored on a previous name. Let’s see how many posts you get till you get ignored again. lol

 

The separation barrier is an illusion — and Israel knows it

I guess we continue playing the game of alternating photos. Obviously that section is extremely secure; the one pictured below not so much.
The separation barrier is an illusion — and Israel knows it
By the way, the linked article was written by two Israeli journalists.

The separation barrier, a stretch of concrete wall and metal fences that Israel began building in the 2000s during the Second Intifada, has contributed greatly to this perception, which most Jewish Israelis share. As if the barrier managed to segregate Israelis from Palestinians, us here and them there, beyond the mountains of darkness. As if the barrier “works.”

The tens of thousands of Palestinians who crossed freely into Israel through the recent breaches in the barrier, in many instances under the watchful eyes of Israeli soldiers, are challenging this perception. But for some senior Israeli officials who are familiar with the situation, this is no surprise. The barrier acts mostly as a symbol, and does not really separate Israelis and Palestinians, because Palestinians travel past it all the time. Israel’s security system is relatively indifferent to this movement; it only cares that people don’t talk about it. The only purpose the separation barrier serves, says one of the retired officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity, is to transform the Israeli mind — to create an illusion of separation.​

 

It isn't an analogy. Lol. Do you know what an analogy is? I'm not comparing two like or unlike things.

I'll help you with a simple conversation:

Person in Mexico: Hello, I have a ladder. I can bring you to the wall. Climb up with you and then put it on the other side for you to climb down if you give me X pesos.
Migrant: Sure, here you go.
Person in Mexico: Get in, we will head there now.

Gosh, that was a really hard to solve business problem.

 

I have no problem with various reforms like expanded guest worker program, but it doesn’t change the fact that you have all of these people coming in claiming asylum, and we don’t really have the ability to process them. We just can’t let everybody who wants to come here in.

 

before you go to bed tonight, you need to create a really big yard sign, saying “All welcome, feel free to come in and take what you please” and leave your door unlocked.

 

does your house have walls and a lock on the door and windows? If so, do they work?

 

Can I put up a sign that results in people fixing issues in my house with a promise that I will pay them instead?

 

Why? We have a big labor shortage problem in this country. Why not fill them with immigrants?

And when you can't fill the jobs anymore because there is no more labor shortages? Then don't allow more to stay on a guest visa because they are unemployed. Besides, if/when we do have a recession, more and more immigrants return home. From between 2009 and 2012, the undocumented immigration population in the US dropped by about 1.7 million. No more jobs, no reason to stay.

You are never going to being to patrol the 2000 mile border effectively. Not unless you are willing to spend billions a year more. And for what purpose? To keep the majority of people just looking for work from entering the country and we continue with our labor shortages? Much better to let the supply of labor legally meet demand. Will help our Border Patrol focus on things that are potentially dangerous at the border. And immigrant families seeking asylum aren't such dangers.

 

Is your property border 2000 miles long and include sand dune desert, rivers, and difficult mountainous terrain? How secure would your house walls be if it was?

 

It would be just as secure as my current home. If I was President my primary responsibility would be to protect my house and family, just like you. The size of the house is irrelevant. It is a matter of priorities. If people are breaking into my house daily, I am going to spend my money on securing my own house, well before I give money to my neighbors to secure their house. My #1 priority is my own family. My friends and neighbors are a very distant second.