Now John Kelly slams Trump

I haven’t jumped in the Hitler comparison, but this post needs some clarification. First, you’ll recall the Beer Hall Putsch, where Hitler unsuccessfully staged a coup.

He was lightly punished for his coup. While serving a minimum sentence, he wrote Mein Kampf.

Following his sentence, he quickly roared back to power, exploiting a worldwide depression, falsely blaming scapegoats inside of Germany and pointing fingers at his enemies, domestic and foreign.

Then, Hitler was elected to office. While in office, he exploited the multi-tiered party system at a unique time when all of the parties despised one another and nine could agree on anything. Using the unified Nazi slim margin, he passed his legislation, ultimately leading to usurping complete power and control over the country, all while the dysfunctional discord-infected parties watched.

There are obvious parallels to Trump. Trump was not punished for his Beer Hall Putsch. Trump is exploiting a worldwide recession. Trump’s MAGA followers care nothing for truth, only for blaming others for problems. And our party system has become completely dysfunctional, as evidenced by McCarthy’s ouster yesterday as Speaker by renegade finger-pointers and screamers. Trump has told us that his platform is a revenge tour, without any semblance of bettering our country or serving national interests.

The parallel of ascension is absolutely there.

 

Only someone who doesn't know anything about history would compare Hitler and Trump.

 

LOL. This is great fiction. Let me know when trump takes over again. Anyone arguing this looks really foolish. Compare trump to some other idiot wannabe dictator. Some people aren't very rational trying to compare trump to hitler and that's the nicest way to say it.

 

Typical grifter response. Probably still doesn't understand why his History teachers didn't accept his response to classic compare and contrast essay questions. "There are differences between the two, therefore, there is no way to compare!" is not an acceptable essay answer. Nor should it be acceptable on this thread.

 

Fiction? OK. What do you think was fiction in what I wrote? You certainly have every right to disagree with a conclusion that there are parallels, but what facts do you contend are fictitious?

 

Imitation is the highest form of flattery. Yeah, trump=hitler is next level dumb. Can't fix stupid.

 

Fiction is comparing Hitler and Trump. Trump was voted out and is now out of office. Simple as that. Hitler was a dictator who stayed in power and killed 10's of millions. Again, terrible analogy. Just a lazy argument by you.

 

What I wrote did not say that Hitler = Trump. I wrote that there are political parallels. Obviously, I’m not the only one that has drawn this parallel. Try reading “Death to Democracy,” by Benjamin Hett, which provides a more fulsome discussion on the topic in general.

 

No, you’re too obstinate to understand what I wrote. I wrote about the parallels to ascension. I’m sorry the distinction is one which you are unable to see.

 

This piece here sums it up nicely. Basically don't compare anyone to Hitler. Simple as that. It's ridiculous. You can try to say it's "only the ascension I'm discussing", but again, it's just not an apt comparison.

Quit Comparing Trump to Hitler!

This is absurd. Granted, Trump’s combination of outsider populism, thinly-veiled appeals to ethnic and racial resentment and tough-guy talk are far more likely to invite comparisons to populist tyrants like Hitler (or Mussolini, another popular Trump analogue) than to, say, Mahatma Gandhi. But the major factor at work here is “Godwin’s Law”—the tongue-in-cheek idea that any online discussion will eventually end up comparing someone or something to Hitler or Nazis. It is a rule illustrated by the long history of Hitler comparisons deployed against both conservative and liberal politicians in America.

 

And here are 13 comparisons between Hitler's rise of power and Trump's rise to power. Is it fair to compare Trump to Hitler post 1938? No. Are there parallels between Trump and Hitler pre 1938? Absolutely, as already pointed out in this thread. The charlatan can't understand this sort of nuance.

There may be no direct parallels. Napoleon was an ousted leader who rose back to power in France, but he originally took over via military coup, and only later tried to make himself look more legit with a sham election. And using grifter logic, you can't compare Trump, who is over 6' tall with Napoleon, who was short because that's a difference!

 

If you understood the complex combinations of factors all coming together at a unique point in time which gave birth to Hitler’s ascension, I truly think you’d have a different opinion. However, I understand your unwillingness to engage in the analysis because of the verboten “never compare to the
most evil man of the 20th Century” to anyone, ever, under any circumstance, rule.

 

You know 95 isn't going to understand something as nuanced as 'political parallels'. Because Trump isn't 100% exactly like Hitler so you can't compare the 2 in any way shape or form.

 

LOL. Anyone comparing trump to Hitler doesn't know their history. You can continue to try to draw parallels and make up crap, but it's a terrible analogy. Again, show me where Hitler lost the election and left office. I love this logic of Trump won the election in 16 and lost in 20 so yeah, let's compare him to Hitler.

 

LOL, thanks for reinforcing my point.

 

Using 95 logic, you can't compare Trump and Napoleon, because Trump is over 6' and Napoleon was short. You can continue to call up parallels and make up crap, but it's a terrible analogy because of the size difference. Show me again where Napoleon was even close to being 6' tall! So yeah, let's continue to compare Trump to Napoleon!

Of course, comparing Trump's rise to power in 2016 and Hitler's rise to power in 1933 do have a lot plenty of parallels. Both used ultra-nationalistic lingo. Both blamed a minority group for all the country's ills, and both claimed an almost divine right to lead as the only person who could ever potentially solve the country's problems. But none of this matters because Trump eventually lost power and Hitler did not?

I, for one, believe we should learn from history, because those that do not are doomed to repeat it. And the best way to avoid another Krystalnact that turns into a Holocaust is to prevent anyone like Hitler from gaining power in the first place. And one can easily draw parallels between Hitler in the early 1930s and Trump circa 2015, and when both attained power, the drive towards authoritarian rule is another, obvious danger sign and parallel.

Yes, Trump hasn't started the next Holocaust, and I'm doubtful the world would allow it at this point. But if anyone has those tendencies, it's someone like Trump. Denying the similarities because they aren't perfectly aligned is at best, revisionist history. And dangerous at worst.

 

Yeah, I recall Trump lost in 2020 and was like "yes good sirs. I lost fair and square. No shenanigans. Please continue to count the votes. Everyone stay calm, I lost legit. Let me pack my bags and exit now. No hard feelings from me. Good day fine chaps"

Thats exactly how I remember it happening

 

Is he the President? Nope. Left office. Sitting at home making up crap. Still, the dumb comparison to Hitler won't stop.

 

I'm not sure it's accurate to say that Trump "lost power." Not yet. Yes, he lost the presidency, but possibly for only four years, and even now he is the power within the Republican party. If he wins in 2024, his rise to dictatorial power will be virtually assured. It will be nothing less than a mandate. In which case it's not that he lost power, his rise was just temporarily interrupted. During which interruption he should have written (that is, have ghost written) his Mein Kampf, titled "I Am Your Retribution."

 

I don't think you understand what "fiction" means. Which follows.