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Post-Game Discussion: FLORIDA at Kentucky

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by ETGator, Sep 30, 2023.

  1. GratefulGator

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    Punter is good.
     
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  2. jdur

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    Firing BN would cost 31 mil. I'd rather hire a 3mil/yr OC
     
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  3. gatordavisl

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    Except that team won nine games, defeated UK by 38 pts, beat GA & LSU went to the SECc game and won it's bowl game 30-3. But yeah, other than that, pretty similar.
     
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  4. layziegator

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    Yes this
     
  5. eightiesgator

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    Not sure where the 7 years comes from. With the exception of 1977 and 1984, a 7-win season is considered a good year for Kentucky. Since Bryant left in 1954 until Stoops arrived, Kentucky's record is 270-371-12 (.422). Spread out to 12 games/year, that average is 5-7. In 70 years, Kentucky had 41 years with a losing record. During Joker Phillips' tenure, Kentucky was 13-24 (.351).

    With Stoops:

    2013: 2-10 (his Pell at Florida 1979 year)
    2014: 5-7 (average Kentucky year)
    2015: 5-7
    2016: 7-6 (lost bowl game)
    2017: 7-6 (lost bowl game)
    2018: 10-3
    2019: 8-5
    2020: 5-6
    2021: 10-3
    2022: 7-6
    2023: 5-0

    I would submit that he built Kentucky to become a better than average team in four years. Since 2016, Kentucky has a 59-35 (.628) record. During that span, Florida is 57-35 (.620).

    From 1980-2009, Florida went 278-90-4 (.753). Since 2010, we went 104-66 (.612). To put this in perspective, our PROBATION years (1986-9) produced a 26-21 (.553) record, with no losing seasons. Not only has Stoops built Kentucky to become a respectable team, our Gators fell 141 percentage points from a winning percentage that stretched back 30 years. In the last 14 years, Florida has fallen hard as an elite program, and it may take a much longer time to rebuild this. For examples, see Nebraska, Miami, Auburn, and Virginia Tech.
     
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  6. SmootyGator

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    I only saw the replay once, so I'm basing it off of that... It wasn't egregious, but it appeared to me he was going forward. The point remains that he should have been coached to never do that for a myriad of reasons. To me, this was one of the most damning occurrences of our "poor" ST play.
     
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  7. jdur

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    lol he kicked it into the endzone twice and the kickoff (i think smack) kicked it out of bounds. Maybe they should trade roles, something for the ST coach to think about
     
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  8. MaceoP

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    Whether Billy needs 4 years or not is irrelevant. He will get 4 years so best to hope he succeeds
     
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  9. cheatng8tr

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    I can't believe how soft our defense was and how flat we seem to be in away games. We just don't have that "guy" who inspires the others to play hard. And BN's demeanor on the sidelines doesn't instill much faith that will change. Add in an unimaginative offense, stupid penalties, and the ever present ST screw ups and you have the sorry showing that was today. BN needs to hire an offensive coordinator. It's pretty plain to see that.
     
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  10. 06GATORS08

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    Douglas gonna miss some time. Sucks.
     
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  11. GATORJV

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    I'm not sure a top three class changes anything, overall. We have more blue chip recruits on the team and rank higher in talent than half the teams we play. If the system and play calling is bad, it doesn't matter who you have back there. If Napier's system needs an overwhelming talent advantage to win, then we'll never win an SEC championship or CFP game.

    While today was a bad day for the defense, through four games, they are showing improvement. I haven't seen any improvement with the offense. We know what we knew last year - that Etienne is really good and can break mutiple tackles.
     
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  12. gatorswrs

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    I believe Scott Stricklin is nothing more than a really good fund-raiser…a good AD also is a superior evaluator of talent…
     
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  13. 62gator

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    The defense allowed a total of 328yds rushing in the first 4 games.
    Today they gave up 329yds on the ground. Whoa!
     
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  14. g8orbill

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    so even if Billy is forced to hire an OC, what are the chances he would give the new OC complete control of the O and the play calling
     
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  15. gatordavisl

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    Wasn't that an academy award-winning film? :emoji_thinking:
     
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  16. Gatorrick22

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    I hope that if we got called for it it was a real foul... I had enough of the refs bias BS calls in that game that seemed to favor the Cats only.
     
  17. gatorswrs

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    With good reason…does that game today give you any hope for any other road games this (or even next) season?
     
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  18. akgator2003

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    not to mention anyone with eyes can see Montrell is nowhere near 100% to play.
     
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  19. Gator715

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    It's not over yet, the good thing about every season is that it's actually a new team every season. But there's not a whole lot of reason to be optimistic about the future right now, and that's troubling.

    The good years we had with Mac, Mullen, and Muschamp all were with the caveat that we weren't sure if their systems were sustainable for running a high caliber program. It turns out they weren't. The issue with Napier is that he hasn't even had a good year yet, and we're here in year 2 asking the same questions as the 3 coaches who preceded him.
     
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  20. duggers_dad

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    Scared money won’t hold it together ?