Sure, the party system is bad, but it’s also true that voters (or least the Electoral College) chose these men not only in a primary but also in a general.
Interesting debate match up. they are on opposite sides, but it’s not for a general election. They are both trying to win their party nomination and both a distant 2nd in polls. So they’ll give responses totally targeted to their political side.
It wouldn’t shock me if Trump won. Maybe even by a decent amount. But if it did happen, I don’t think it should be viewed as a validation of Trump so much as a condemnation of the electorate. Ignoring all the implications and unknowns behind the scenes, we know very well who Trump is at this point from things he did in front the camera, and if we still can’t move to an alternative, that says more about us than him.
what did he do in front of the camera? I’m a little confused by this assertion … was it good or bad? I assume he did both.
Yeah, how much is actually the party? And I'm asking because I don't know. Is there a group of ringleaders deciding who rises and who never has a chance?
I don't know either to be honest. I definitely recall feeling like most of the Democratic establishment in 2008 was behind the Clinton machine and wanted Obama to wait his turn. Assuming that's true, the primary voters obviously thought differently. I also feel like most of the GOP establishment was doing what they could to stop Trump in the 2016 primary, though that was a little different given how many candidates were in the race early on.
Sorry I was trying to reference his unbecoming behavior, such as implying most Mexican Americans are rapists, mocking the disabled reporter, and his tweets after the capitol breach on 1/6. I just view these instances as disqualifying for such a sacred office. If we want a president who is pro-life or pro-tariff, we have thousands of options who would never behave in these ways.
someone here will attack me, claiming I am defending Trump, but that’s not my intent with what I’m about to post. If you feel like attacking me, knock yourself out, because I don’t give a poop Trump did not mock the disabled reporter. If you Google that instance, you will see that he has given several speeches prior to that using the same hand gestures which have nothing to do with that reporter. You have to put his speech in context. There are at least two videos out there, prior to the one you are referencing, where he uses the identical hand gestures in describing people in an unflattering manner, not a disability. As for implying most Mexicans are rapist, I’m not aware of any such statement. I know he got flack for saying that Mexico was not sending over their best, and that some of them are/were rapist, which is a true statement. Again, in context, he’s trying to argue that we have to have our immigration system and laws in place so that everyone goes through the system so we can weed out the rapist and reject their entry into the United States. I don’t think any American disagrees with that premise. I don’t know what January 6 tweets you’re referring to so I’ll pass on any response regarding that. I do agree that Trump has said some cringey things that is beneath the office of the President of the United States. He definitely has salty language. IMO, I just think he’s overly bombastic, but he shouldn’t be disqualified for it, just don’t vote for him. Edit…here is a video compilation Even MORE Video Evidence Trump Did Not Mock Reporter's Disability - CATHOLICS 4 TRUMP
Clearly there is a problem if the government is saying to the people “this man is a felon 91 times over” and the people are shouting back “eff you, get out of our way!!”
I respect that not everyone is going to agree with every complaint about Trump, but the sheer number of instances is mind boggling. The Mexican comment was definitely a bit more than just “some people are bad”. I don’t want to get into a bash Trump post, but here’s a few more: “grab them by the @&$&”, the call to Zelensky, the time he used a meeting the Boy Scouts to talk about his inauguration attendance, his comments to challengers including mocking their appearance and insulin hating their family murder JFK, etc. Maybe we can haggle about each one, but if so, I don’t think we could ever rightly criticize any politician. And by “disqualifying”, I don’t mean legally. I mean morally. By my morals. So I won’t vote for him personally. Moreover I think most people share these morals, because they are more or less kindergarten fundamentals. I can understand disagreement with taxes, abortion, government assistance, etc. All complex issues, where both sides have a valid argument. I just first want a president who acts like an adult and shows serious respect to the office. Then I’ll assess the candidate’s policy preferences.
The media breaks its back to find dirt, twist info, take words out of context…anything to put Trump in a bad light. What I found more telling, is that Trump never tried to clarify, apologize or show humility. A good leader has to show some kind of redeeming personality trait. It doesn’t matter to me any more. He had his chances to show us how to behave like a CEO but he consistently shows he’s just a rude mail clerk.
He has recently suggested America’s top military figure (that would not go along with him) be executed and that major media networks ( that are critical) be done away with. More fascist than rude.
For sure the media paints some colored perspectives, and certainly we ourselves give a helping hand there too. I am sure I’ve allowed my low opinion it Trump to influence my perceptions of his behavior to some degree, but I do agree with your point that Trump so rarely has ever apologized or expressed humility.
Unreal that a complete jackass like trump could beat the incumbent. It absolutely is a condemnation of the Democratic Party… but mostly just how bad Joe Biden has been as president. But the saddest thing.. how corrupt, disorganize, and lost have our political parties gotten that this is where we are. A choice between two terrible presidents whom we don’t want.
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I care not about Trump’s personal affairs or his age. I care about what he will do in that seat. In that seat, he will pursue issues that are paramount in my mind. I don’t care if he has WH aides giving him handies all day. If he keeps the country respectable with good policy, I would rather it be Trump than some schmuck who will stab us in the back the first chance he gets.
