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Biden admin granting temp legal status to more than 470k migrants. Will now build wall

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Shade45, Sep 21, 2023.

  1. mdgator05

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    No, you showed a decline. Nobody claimed there wasn't a decline. However, your own link stated that it was not due to the wall. You want to avoid that, but that is what your own link said. If you dispute that, why did you link it? Tough one for you again. Good luck next time!
     
  2. gator95

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    Great. Doesn't change the fact Illegal Immigration is a huge issue and it is costing the US billions more than what we spend on the southern border annually. People can continue to have their head in the sand unfortunately.
     
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  3. gator95

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    LOL. That is your way of saying sorry. I appreciate it. Build the wall, and attacks stopped. SHOCKER! Thanks for admitting it.
     
  4. mdgator05

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    This whole thing is you not being able to deal with the fact that even your own links (again, the links you specifically chose, not anybody else) don't support you. Tough one, sport.
     
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  5. gator95

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    They did. Good try. You are quoting someone saying it didn't, I posted the actual number of attacks dropping significantly. So until you show the wall didn't stop attacks you lose. Thanks for playing.
     
  6. mdgator05

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    Not according to your link. Good try.

    Here is the quote from your own link:

    So it seems that the Israeli security force doesn't think it stopped attacks because terrorists found ways to bypass it. Again, from the Israeli security force as quoted in YOUR link. You lose to your own link. Ouch.

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  7. gator95

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    What are the ways? Rockets? Then yes a wall won't stop a rocket. So your whole argument is 2 sentences while disregarding the PROOF of attacks being down significantly. You keep going with that line of thinking Skippy.
     
  8. gator95

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    Looks just like you!
     
  9. mdgator05

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  10. mdgator05

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    Nah, it looks like the person who provided the link that disputes his point. That would be you, not me. Sorry about that!
     
  11. gator95

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    Oh man I guess you guys are right and we should not do anything. Everything is great LOL. And here is more data showing how Israel combatted their immigration issues.

    Why Israel’s Border Fence Worked

    Between the years 2007-2012, approximately 61,000 illegal immigrants entered Israel through the Egyptian border, the overwhelming majority coming from Eritrea and Sudan. The border fence was completed in December 2012 and the numbers of illegal immigrants dropped from 10,431 in 2012 to less than 150 in 2013. Furthermore, illegal immigrants entering between 2013-2016 were consistently lower than 150, only with a slight rise in 2015 to 232.


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  12. gator95

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    Doesn't dispute it all. Sounds like someone opposed to the wall making up crap while the PROOF shows the wall stopped attacks.

    Again, here is where the discount is. You think an opinion is a fact while I post facts. Not a good look Skippy.
     
  13. mrhansduck

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    I don't think I have my head stuck in the sand. I'm just not inclined to rely upon a group that wants to slash legal immigration, is complaining about American children being given an education (presumably we should factor in how much those kids will add to the economy and tax base going forward), and might even be tied to White Nationalists. I'm not arguing for the status quo either. I think we need comprehensive reform, which would probably include the following: expanding and improving guest worker programs, continued support for legal immigration (maybe more of that), re-thinking our failed War on Drugs, and helping to improve the conditions in the countries from where migrants are risking their lives to come here.
     
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  14. mdgator05

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    Israel's Internal Security force (who put out that report) is opposed to the wall? They were the ones that didn't view it as a significant cause.

    You literally posted an OPINION piece right before this post. Funny stuff!
     
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  15. mdgator05

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    So the claim is that illegal immigrants weren't deterred by the wall in 2011-2012, despite there having been a wall each of those years on the Egyptian border, but rather waited 3 years to be deterred? Coincidentally, they waited until after a change in government in Egypt that made it harder to get there. But that is just coincidence. It was the wall, which existed during the highest immigration years that caused it.
     
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  16. gator95

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    OK. So do you believe we have an illegal immigration problem? If so what do you think should be done?
     
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    So i'll take this as you have no data to refute the decreased attacks. Thanks for admitting it Skippy!
     
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  19. mdgator05

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    Once again, you provided the link where the Israelis dispute what you are saying.
     
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    Once again????
    Not sure if you are being obtuse to be obtuse or if you really are.
    Re read what I said, Biden will give them documentation to work, so they will get a SS#, then they will get a license then they will vote.
    NO WHERE DID I SAY UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANTS VOTING!!!!!
    Hope that is clear enough.
    Border may have never been completely secure, but it has never been the open sieve it has been the past couple years under sleepy.
     
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