Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Not only that, but then he props up grifters and lapdogs like Ladapo because they take his side and say what he likes to hear. Pathetic. His arrogance is absolutely astonishing considering how unbelievably ignorant he is when it comes to the topic.

 

The article I posted explains the absence of isolation in any paper to date. Virologists are people who presuppose viruses and see them into existence through purely inferential methods.

And I don’t know why you’re making this so hard. Deaths are deaths, regardless the cause. The CDC records deaths regardless of cause. The CDC records indicate massive excess deaths especially over 2020-21. All of which can be explained without reference to a virus.

 

This seems like good news …

 

This from a teammate of the ‘co-discover’ of the so-called HIV virus …

 

You do what you need to do. The funny thing is you know the cdc and public health officials still pushing this shot on kids is wrong.

 

“So are you a doctor ?” is way past its sell-by date. Far fewer millions would have died under witch doctors.

 

I do, huh? Wow, in addition to being a doctor and researcher, you are also a psychic? That is incredible. I mean, the alternative is just narcissism run amok where you think that you know everybody else's thoughts and somehow can control them just by speaking it into existence, and it couldn't be that, right?

 

Too many Covidians would like to do this. I’m not going to let them …

 

CDC calculations are not made "regardless of cause" but on "select causes of death" (all of which are disease related). Mortality data includes and excludes covid so people can see how the numbers differ. Homicides, accidents and other causes of death that aren't among those diseases would fall outside the CDC's defined framework and therefore cannot possibly explain the numbers because those deaths aren't part of the data.

Your argument about virology is nonsense.

 

You’re so cute. As I said. You know the idiots at the cdc and public health pushing to these shots are wrong. Stupid wrong. You do you though and circle jerk away…

 

You miss the obvious point of @philnotfil 's question.

He wanted to see if you understood why using rates as opposed to counts is the proper way to interpret data when comparing things from populations of significantly different sizes?

You seemed to get it with your statement about Florida, yet for some reason you can't bring yourself to apply that same thinking to covid deaths & vaccination status with the UK and US data.

 

Wow, what number am I thinking of right now?

So now, in addition to being a medical doctor, researcher, and psychic, you are also an expert in public health (and, weirdly, in circle jerks). That must have been one heck of an engineering program.

 

You continue to evade the implications of what for most (in my experience) is a very basic concept …

Deaths are deaths.

People like yourself posit excess mortality as evidence of a uniquely pernicious pathogen.

I have demonstrated that all excess deaths, ex: something like 380k in 2020, can be explained by causes other than a virus.

 

I fully understand the difference. The counts paint the picture. The rates can be useful. But when you misuse rates to rush a drug to market by pushing it on all groups while ignoring risk benefit...it becomes dangerous. Just like saying 2/3rds of those who died with covid after April 2021 were unvaccinated is a dangerous thing to say because it does not come close to reality and the actual counts. We let models screw up the response to this thing beyond recognition. And the hard numbers tell the story. There was never a need for young healthy people to take the shot. I would argue you now (and I know you would disagree and that is fine) that they should never have been approved though at the time I was good with EUA for high risk groups.

After this whole thing...mrna has a place in medicine (cancer). But not when it comes to covid shots. Probably not for vaccines either. But our government just spent billions more on them. And I suspect the vast majority of those doses get thrown in the garbage when we have maybe 7% take them. You are making the correct decision to be a part of the majority.

 

When you defended FL after @philnotfil mentioned covid deaths, you implied rates by mentioning FL's pop size. Now, when wanting to defend your narrative about covid vaccines, you go to counts while completely discarding population size as being important. I don't think you're deliberately being dishonest, but your inconsistency screams cognitive dissonance, imo.

No, not just like saying 2/3rds dying from covid in the US since April 2021.

The number is actually 69%, but anyway, if anything it masks the fact that unvaxxed comprise only slightly more than 25% of the US pop, which is to say that the unvaxxed death rate is considerably higher than the vaxxed death rate.This remains true at each age group, including those 65 and older, and it's true if comparing both populations, age-adjusted rates or not.

However...

Beginning in March 2022, the death counts flipped with vaxxed having more deaths than unvaxxed. The rates did not flip w/the rate difference dropping by only 24%. Also needs to be mentioned that covid deaths peaked in the 2nd week of Jan 2022. By the 3rd week of March 2022, deaths had dropped over 96% from peak, which is to say that "flip" in counts occurred when there was only a fraction of the total deaths in each week since March 2022 compared to peak.

What do you mean by hard numbers, specifically?

And what hard numbers, again, specifically?

 

The hard numbers from the beginning (Diamond Princess/Italy/New York/etc) all showed who died from this disease. And we decided to push a new technology on an entire population. A technology that at the end of the day likely has its best results for cancer. This drug caused inflammation. Unnecessarily in millions of young healthy people. The risk benefit was never there. And we are quadrupling down today with guidance you know is wrong as you don’t follow it!!!!!!!!!

 

I still think you need to reckon with your inconsistent views regarding rates. If you do, it might clear up at least some of your confusion.

Put it like this, over 8.6k young Americans ages 0 to 29 (1.6k ages 0-17) died from covid.
At least 3.5k died since April 2021; 92% (3.2k) were unvaxxed.

Leaving out J&J, how many young people died from covid vaccines?

Seems to me that saving thousands of lives with the tradeoff being mild, temporary side effects in a vast majority of cases and extremely remote chance of dying is a damn good thing.

 

Raw numbers without analysis are meaningless. Reminds me of a classic George Carlin bit doing the news. "And now the sports scores. 5, 3, 9, 2, 7..."

A more relevant example would be a population where 10 unvaccinated people died, and 100 vaccinated died. The raw numbers show 10X more vaccinated died, but what story does this tell without knowing the total vaccinated and unvaccinated population totals? Say the unvaccinated population was 100, and vaccinated 10,000. Then the rates show the vaccinated mortality rate is 10 times less, and even though there are more vaccinated total deaths, had everyone been vaccinated, 9 total lives would've been saved.

This is just as example. The actual numbers tell a very similar story. In all age cohorts 12 and older, the unvaccinated die at higher rates. Not necessarily true for kids, but looking at the data, the unvaccinated are at a higher risk of myocarditis from infection, and higher risk of a severe case turning into MIS-C.

And that's why every major medical group recommends vaccination. Including 99% of pediatricians in Ontario, CA, and major pediatric medical groups from around the country. To suggest you know more than practicing pediatricians and tell others what they should do is either the height of hubris, or incredibly dangerous ignorance. Either way, I know whom I'm listening to.

 

You have the arrow backwards. People like me posit that a uniquely pernicious pathogen caused most of the excess mortality from 2020 to 2022

...because that is what the data/evidence shows.

Speculation is not demonstration.

Murder, auto deaths, iatrogenic, fear, abandonment etc.. could possibly explain a broader excess mortality measurement if that measure includes any/all causes of death over expected numbers. But they cannot explain away CDC excess mortality numbers.

Same time, "at home" deaths might be included in the CDC if the cause of death was from the defined list of diseases, but there's no way to determine the number since the CDC doesn't publish location of death in that data. We can't just impute that all such deaths were listed as covid.