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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. AzCatFan

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    More misleading crap. Ever get tired of it? Yes, the PCR test didn't have a COVID isolate, because one wasn't available. But instead, in a common practice for viral tests, the PCR test was calibrated using genetic sequencing known to be COVID-19. I know, more science that disproves your core beliefs, so it must be either bad, manipulated, or leprechauns in action.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    Genomics is essentially a rescue device in the absence of a physical virus. Sequencing is essentially like feeding a million words into a computer and directing the computer to spit out Hamlet. Deeper dive … The Indirect Approach
     
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  3. duggers_dad

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    Why aren’t people more inquisitive ?

    Where is the PHYSICAL presence and physical activity of the "virus" particles itself observed as biological process occuring in the living organism ?

    Where is scientific clinical experiment which shows that millions of COMPLETE, intact "virus" particles came from nowhere, jumped into to body, then themselves moving to particular area of the body and attacking the cells resulting in the symptoms we attribute to viruses ?
     
  4. mutz87

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    "Real safety signals" point to rare cases of myocarditis and even rarer cases of some other side effects. Myocarditis is likely much rarer from vaccines than it is from covid infection, though these are relative differences in extremely rare events. See here and here, e.g.

    When people are saying they are safe, they are not saying they are 100% completely risk free.
    Literally every drug has risks and yet there are thousands of legal medications used in healthcare.

    But look what happened when Johnson & Johnson's vax was discovered to have caused about 60 cases of blood clots & 9 deaths. The govt stopped supporting it and let the stockpile expire, this despite that clotting and deaths were still rare events.

    Shouldn't be surprising about the lack of new clinical trials. Next gen vaccines often don't have to go through clinical trials post FDA process when the changes aren't significant enough. Has been happening with flu vaccines for decades.
     
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  5. QGator2414

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    In 2023 there is absolutely no justification to authorize these shots. We have given billions and billions of dollars to Pfizer and Moderna. They have billions of reasons to run the trials. Yet we don’t and instead suggest a 6 month old take the shot base on mice and 50 people (one of whom had an injury from the shot they will not disclose). The idiots at the cdc and in public health should be tarred, feathered and fired for this insanity in 2023.

    Thankfully you understand you do not need to take this shot. I assume you are not dumb enough to suggest your kids and grandkids take it.

    The good news is doctors are not listening to these idiots!
     
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  6. QGator2414

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    Dr. Fraiman (please feel free to try and diminish this ER doctor if you wish) who has not admitted a patient for Covid since Feb of 2022 (lots with Covid)…has done a great service with some fellow friends in the field. This is what Pfizer/Moderna and the idiots in public health do not want you to know.

     
  7. docspor

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    psssst. doctors are not scientists. ohhh, an ER doctor. Are we gonna start letting mechanics design bridges & fighter planes?
     
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  9. GatorJMDZ

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    Q Tip of the Day: Stop the spread of Covid...floss your teeth.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    We’ve already discussed how: (A) metrics were remarkably uniform in the West (B) and that people who were vaccinated less than 14 days were considered unvaccinated (C) and that the ‘unvaccinated’ were tested at higher CT levels while the ‘vaccinated’ were often not tested at all.

    There’s your ABCs on how to propound the myth of vaccine efficacy.
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    ^ Now throw in the fraudulent PCR test and eye of newt, AKA: sequencing … and it’s easy to understand how people might be fooled into believing that people are dying of non-existent causes because they didn’t get the shots.
     
  12. mutz87

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    I'm going to assume that you had no idea that until now, the FDA often doesn't require additional clinical trials when changes are made to vaccines. There are many valid reasons to be even more skeptical of Makary's gazillion different claims about covid given his penchant for playing loosey goosey with facts. In this instance, not acknowledging this common practice is to frame the issue as if it were something deceitful when in fact it has been common practice long before covid.

    Again, there is no evidence that doctors aren't recommending vaccines. Repeating the same falsehood doesn't make it any more true.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    The whole dark episode that is ‘Covid’ was predicated on cherry-picking on the part of public health as amplified by media and ratified by governments. Culpability rankings …

    Public health —> media —> governments
     
  14. AzCatFan

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    Here's an article interviewing Dr. Hotez, who is a pediatric infectious disease specialist, has done research on vaccines before, and fully supports vaccination for all. Here are his thoughts on those who have become vaccine skeptics due to politics:

    In the past, there was an inherent auto-correction mechanism. When parents aren't vaccinating their kids, they see in their community kids hospitalized for measles and that will correct the situation.

    This is not auto-correcting after 200,000 Americans needlessly perished. What you're seeing instead is those politically motivated members of Congress and governors and presidential candidates are doubling down. Rather than pause for self-reflection, they're saying no, it wasn't COVID that killed Americans it was the vaccine and by the way the scientists invented the virus.

    It's an attempt to revise history. This is what they do in authoritarian regimes.

    I don't see this getting better at least until after the 2024 presidential election. The craziness just seems to be accelerating.
    Still waiting on evidence of all those doctors, especially pediatricians, not recommending any COVID vaccination. And waiting on the answer to why there should be human testing on a vaccine that is 99% the same of one that was already tested and approved.
     
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  15. mutz87

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    Don't have to diminish him as an ER doc, but the study's findings are almost certainly not valid. You should check out p-hacking (i.e. data dredging) among other methodological problems with the study before proclaiming that he did some "great service" The problems in the study are why you don't see anyone other than anti-vaxxers who promoted it.
     
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  16. gator95

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    Anyone touting that Fraud Hotez should just be laughed off the message boards. Let me know when that clown gets anything right. He was wrong on lockdowns, school closures, STILL thinks masks works, STILL thinks it's smart to vaccinate healthy kids. That idiot shouldn't be teaching at a community college, let alone influencing policy.
     
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  17. QGator2414

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    The only people pushing these shots now are the public health fools/media/pharma/biden. Not even Europe is at this point. When the great Paul Offit backs off. You can rest assured most doctors are not pushing these shots. It would be malpractice to tell a young healthy person to take one of these shots now.

    There is a reason you have not taken the booster. Your doctor. You are doing the right thing and keep up the good work. Love hearing about how you are getting healthy!

    This deceivers platform is way new and we know the safety signals. You should watch the video with Dr. Fraiman.
     
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  18. AzCatFan

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    Can't attack the message, attack the messenger full charge! Ad hominen and name calling. Tell me you have lost the argument without telling me you have lost the argument, please.
     
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  20. gator95

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    See the Grifter doesn't like it when his boy gets called out. Anyone thinking Hotez has even an ounce of credibility is an idiot. Simple as that. Hotez lied about the covid origins and Gain of function research in Wuhan. Charlatan's gonna charlatan.
     
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