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Christain Pastor calls autistic kids "junk" that god didn't make

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Sep 15, 2023.

  1. Contra

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    There are roughly 49 million students in public schools, and there are roughly 1.7 million students in Catholic schools.

    Yet, 100x more students are sexual abuse victims in public schools, which is not proportional. The discrepancy cannot be purely explained on the basis of different population size. The number should be about 1/3 of that if proportionality holds.
     
  2. WarDamnGator

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    You sure you got your facts right, here? I can find articles saying that public school kids are 100x more likely to be abused in school than by a priest, but that's not even close to how you are phrasing it.
     
  3. BigCypressGator1981

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    You got a link for that?
     
  4. duggers_dad

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    Ah, come back to church. There’s always room for one more hypocrite!
     
  5. duggers_dad

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  6. BLING

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    He’s saying 100x more - which maybe true in absolute terms based on sheer volume. But considering far more kids interact every day in public schools vs how many interact with ordained priests or ministers, it would be highly misleading to use absolute figures as a comparison. If there were “rates” to compare per 100 interactions or per 100 students that would make more sense and be more useful basis for analysis.

    In either case, the issue with the Catholic Church was the extent to which they covered it up. We did see similar issues at individual college institutions (Ohio State, Michigan State, Columbia, etc) that show it isn’t impossible to have such coverups in other types of institutions, but obviously those were individual actors being covered for, whereas the Catholic Church had a more systemic problem of covering up child abuse (hell in some countries it was worse than just sex abuse, they had mass graves of children dead at the hands of the Catholic Church).
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    The 100 x more should, at very least, give church-bashers pause. But I predict it won’t.
     
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  8. WarDamnGator

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    I'm just questioning where he's getting the 100x from and if he is really phrasing it correctly. Saying "100x more kids are abused in public school than religious schools "is a lot different than saying "public school kids are 100x more likely to abused in public schools than by a priest" -- which is what the research I found actually says. I mean, there are a lot more people than priests that work in religious schools, so narrowing the argument like that is pretty faulty to begin with, and as you pointed out, the number of kids at public vs. private school is significant.
     
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  9. duggers_dad

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    We’ve already determined that: (A) it’s an actual study and (B) if 100 times as many incidences then it’s a wash between churches and schools and (C) if 100 x frequency then horrifying.
     
  10. tilly

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    Dependa on the discussion. When you try and falsely proclaim the growing demise of Christianity by using stats, I will refute with similar stats.

    If you're asking if I believe all those proclaiming the faith to actually follow. Christ... No, I do not.
     
  11. tilly

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    Seems like a snarky answer for no reason.
     
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  12. tilly

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    I cant get past this post. Worst one I have ever seen on this site and not even a blip of resistance.

    Whats wrong with people.
     
  13. Sohogator

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    I think everyone else understood what he was saying. Don’t be so Old Testament.
     
  14. duggers_dad

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    No difference between the God of the OT and the God of the NT. Arguably, the roughest teachings in the Bible come from Jesus.
     
  15. phatGator

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    I’m trusting this is hyperbole, because otherwise that’s an extremely harsh position. And what about the brainwashing in public schools? What about the brainwashing of living in your own home?

    I will give you the benefit of the doubt if it’s along the lines of:

    Don't send my boy to M.I.T.
    The dying mother said.
    Don't send my boy to Emory
    I'd rather see him dead.
    But send my boy to Georgia Tech
    'Tis better than Cornell.
    But as for University of Georgia:
    I'd RATHER SEE HIM IN HELL!
     
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  16. phatGator

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    I’m sorry to be so direct, but that is an extremely uninformed viewpoint. Even if you dismiss the supernatural aspects of the New Testament, you still have 27 separate writings from antiquity by various authors that describe numerous events that occurred in these peoples lives.

    Furthermore, there are extra biblical references to many of these events. I have never heard any scholar assert that nothing from the New Testament ever happened.

    Do you believe anything from antiquity happened? Did Plato exist? Did Alex the great exist? Did Hannibal exist?
     
  17. Sohogator

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    None of this is relevant to anything once you realize God doesn’t exist..
     
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  18. duggers_dad

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    I find this sort of rock-ribbed certitude annoying. I’ve known Jehovah’s Witnesses who are more circumspect.
     
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  19. phatGator

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    But becomes extremely relevant once you realize God does exist. :D
     
  20. docspor

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    Read the bible. God seems to not even know about most of the world. That, or he didn't give a shit. Nary a mention of the Nephites, Zoramites, etc. Zoramites...ok, but the Nephites were his boys.
     
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