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Graham Mertz, Game Manager Appreciation Thread - (updated to 2024 season)

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by 4RoswellGators, Sep 17, 2023.

  1. 4RoswellGators

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    I do not understand the term "game manager" when describing a QB. That is the job of a QB. Get the correct play called in the huddle, make sure everyone is lined up properly and then run the play? ... you know, "manage the game".

    But for some reason a QB that is a game manager is a lessor QB when compared to what? A non-game manager? A QB that throws 30+ passes/game? A running QB?

    Mertz is making great decisions, is crazy accurate, is a leader, is calm under pressure and doesn't make mistakes. His pump fake for a first, the completion to Jackson, the sideline pass to Trey and the "sell" on the screen to Trell (he took a beating on that one) were ELITE.

    Heck, if that is a "game manager", I have zero interest in the alternative...whatever the F that is.

    Combined with the "other stuff" :: he seems to love UF, is involved in the community and is always positive ... we should all hope he comes back next year to tutor Lagway.
     
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  2. G8tas

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    A game manager is a QB that isn't super athletic. They aren't going to wow you with their speed or arm strength, but they make the right play when needed
     
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  3. Claygator

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    IMO, Mertz was a much needed pickup. I'm not sure where would be if Billy hadn't properly evaluated, and landed him. The TD to Montrell was very Mahomes like. Judging by the way our players went after the dollies at the end of the game, I think he has their respect.

    You have to laugh at the media clowns picking him as the worst QB in the SEC. They sure get paid a lot of money to be wrong so often.
     
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  4. Gatorhead

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    I always envisage a Joe Burrow type as a "QB", if ur not slinging it all over the field for 400, your a game manager.
     
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  5. Gatorhead

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    Mertz is doing a great job so far. Beyond expectations IMO.
     
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  6. Gatorhead

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    What a difference a couple of weeks make.
    All of UFs goals are still ahead of them.

    The schedule looks favorable to add some
    "W's now.

    Ky will be huge coming up.
     
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  7. 4RoswellGators

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    So these QB's are game managers.
    Aaron Rogers
    Joe Montana
    Tom Brady
    Drew Breeze
    Graham Mertz

    But these are not:
    Jamarcus Russell
    Ryan Leaf
    Johnny Manziel
    Kellen Mond
    Joe Milton

    It is ridiculous term to describe a QB.
     
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  8. tegator80

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    Only one addition to this. A game manager wins games by not losing them. That is him in spades this year.
     
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  9. gator_n_sc

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    Not mine, this was my expectations, I knew he would silence a bunch of talking heads. Anyone who was trying to judge a QB based off of the Wisconsin game plan is nuts. He was the highest rated QB recruit Wiscy ever had and they still fumbled that. You can't undervalue 32 P5 starts when looking for a QB to lead your team and only 4 other QB's in all of cfb had more starting experience than Mertz. He's not "Flashy" but he is the leader we needed, mature, super efficient , cool under pressure and is only getting better. I consider us lucky to have him IMO
     
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  10. gator_n_sc

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    Steve Spurrier and Danny wuerffel would fall under the Game manager category too.... oh and they just happen to be 2 of the 3 statues out front of UF.
     
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  11. sjgator

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    Brett Farve, Rex grossman, p mahone, joe burrow we’re not game managers. Neither are Tom Brady, Peyton manning drew brews.

    Danny wuerffel Shane Mathew’s are not game managers either.

    Game managers are aj macaron, Greg melcory type. I think mertz belongs to this group
     
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  12. pogba

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    Let's not get crazy. Mertz is a lot better than most expected. He is a real leader. He is not going to single handedly win games. But he will play a valuable part of us winning games. He is not capable of gunslinging it on an every down basis. But he has shown he is a dependable QB, which has been something we really haven't had a lot of post-Tebow (sans Trask). So, let's enjoy it and not burden him with unrealistic expectations.
     
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  13. fox

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    Keep doubting. Until the Heisman is renamed the Mertzman. Crow you shall eat.
     
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  14. G8tas

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    The simple answer is no
     
  15. 31g8r

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    Game managers are like point guards in basketball they make the offense run on schedule for all the reasons listed above

    The other QBs listed above can take over a game and lead come from behind victories repeatedly.

    Sound defense and a game manager is a good position to be currently. We are still in the formative stage of the rebuild (ie talent upgrade, team cohesiveness, fundamental execution, learning to win)

    At the conclusion of the season it would be nice to see full participation in the bowl game, expecting to win games, additional talent upgrades during the ESP for Jan enrollment, additional ‘25 commitments, and additional coaching hires

    All the above would be a great 2nd season under BN
     
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  16. 4RoswellGators

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    So the term is used subjectively.

    My list was made based on the definition provided by @G8tas -- not going to wow you with speed or arm strength. Danny, Shane, Brady and Brees had limited arm strength and mobility. They were deadly accurate and were elite at reading D's and getting the ball to the correct player.

    Heck, if you want to call Mertz a Game Manager, go for it. From what I've seen, this kid is the real deal and is the key ingredient to the rebuild.
     
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  17. Brodeur

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    Game manager implies the QB is not asked to carry the offensive load and attack defenses frequently down the field. When you're an offense that's run-first, or you want the QB to throw mostly short easy passes to your playmakers, your QB will probably be called a game manager.

    Yes, more prolific QBs like those mentioned above also "manage" the game in some respect. But clearly there's a difference in that they do more to lead the offense and stretch/attack the defense than the classic game manager QB examples.

    Mertz was very good last night, he deserves accolades (no turnovers!). But he threw for 166 yards last night, his longest completion was 18 yards on a (very well executed) screen pass. That's why he's called a game manager. Which isn't a bad thing, when you run for 180+ yards that'll win you some games! But its obvious what we ask Mertz to do is very different than e.g. what UT asked Hooker and Milton to do the last year and this.
     
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  18. gator_n_sc

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    But he also threw for 333 yards on 31/44 passing and a TD in week one so what does that tell you? It tells me he takes what the defense gives him and can sling it if the running game isn't clicking. It also tells me he knows how to follow a game plan. But it doesn't tell me why any of that should be a knock on the QB. It just means he knows how he needs to play within the confines of the game.... what is needed when it's needed.
     
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  19. Brodeur

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    We also scored 11 points in said game, so when we have to revert to him passing every play the offense probably isn't going to be effective. Now that's not all on Mertz, its the whole offense. It may be UF doesn't have the pass protection and deep WR room to rely more on the vertical passing game. But unfortunately we needed the vertical passing game in Utah when they stuffed the run and built a lead, and it wasn't there.
     
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  20. gator_n_sc

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    It was also his 1st game of the season, with this staff, in this system and as a gator. All 1st's. And he became one of only 4 QB's in UF history to throw for 70% comp % , 300+ yards and 30+ completions in a game joining Rex, Danny and Tebow.
     
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