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Whatever Happened to Informed Consent?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by thecoastalman, Sep 13, 2023.

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  1. thecoastalman

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    This is what the hospitals did during COVID: A doctor sat down next to a patient and said, “You have a choice. We can give you Remdesivir, which killed 53 percent of the patients in an Ebola trial. It was so bad the trial had to be shut down. Or we can give you ivermectin, a safe and effective drug that’s been successfully used for decades, and send you home. Which do you prefer?”

    The reason that conversation never happened is that it would have cost the hospital too much money. If the hospital gave you ivermectin and sent you home, the federal government paid the hospital $3,200. If the hospital gave you Remdesivir, the federal government paid the entire hospital bill, plus a 20 percent bonus. So the hospital executives’ choice was to receive $3,200 or $500,000, which was the average hospital bill. No contest. Patients were going to get Remdesivir — whether they wanted it or not.

    Informed consent has been enshrined in numerous judicial rulings as the foundation of ethical medical practice and seared into the public’s conscience from the Nuremberg trials. Seven Nazi doctors were hanged in Germany by an American military tribunal for “murders, tortures, and other atrocities committed in the name of medical science.” Yet murders, tortures, and other atrocities are exactly what was committed by medical staff in the hospitals against thousands of Americans during COVID.

    Whatever Happened to Informed Consent? ⋆ Brownstone Institute

    People were outright murdered in hospitals. Nobody was there to stop them. Many sadistic doctors got to live out their sick fantasy. Why would you ever put someone with a respiratory illness on a ventilator if you weren’t trying to kill them? It's utterly insane.

    Issuing remdsevir and withholding ivermectin was criminal.

    Doctors need to hang for this. Fauci needs to be tortured and then hanged for this. Americans were nothing more than guinea pigs used for research. Fauci and Bill Gates are two of the most evil people to have ever walked the Earth. They are easily right up there with Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and Josef Mengele.

    I have feeble hope the medical community can have a "Come to Jesus" moment and return to "Do No Harm". If not the entire medical industrial complex needs to be burned to the ground and rebuild.

    The medical community has never answered for their COVID crimes. This needs to change.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    The widow every right to scream in the doctors faces, over and over, “You killed him! You killed him! You killed him!”
     
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  3. thecoastalman

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    The widow has every right to do more than that. They have ever right to scream "You killed him!" over and over, sue them, take every cent they have and then at the very end they get to be the ones who pull the lever.
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    Yeah, I was going to go darker and darker. But dark is not dark enough for what was done to people in hospitals.
     
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    Not to mention all the people who died alone and scared because they weren't allowed visitors.
     
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    Link?
     
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    Effective at doing what?
     
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    Some of you people make me wish for another pandemic so I can watch you all put your vast medical expertise to work.
     
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    I'd be curious if there's any evidence this is true:

     
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    https://www.science.org/content/art...-new-treatments-dramatically-lower-death-rate

    Overall, 49% of patients receiving ZMapp—and 53% of those who received remdesivir—died, compared with only 29% of those on REGN-EB3. That difference was big enough to meet the predetermined criterion for stopping the trial early. In the group that received mAb114, mortality was 34%, a rate deemed close enough to that of the Regeneron cocktail that its use should continue.

    Ebola Virus Disease - PAHO/WHO | Pan American Health Organization

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    I think the people who need to hang are all of @thecoastalman's "teachers."
     
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    Ivermectin is safe and effective at killing nematodes or microscopic "worms" found in untreated drinking water. In study after study, ivermectin has been found to be ineffective against COVID. The only positive ivermectin studies were done in countries with traditionally bad drinking water, like India. It's most likely the ivermectin worked well at killing the nematodes in that water, and helped the body fight off COVID, since it didn't have to battle the nematodes at the same time. But in countries with clean drinking water, no nematodes, no ivermectin benefit whatsoever during a COVID infection.

    In addition, the average cost for a COVID hospital stay in 2020 was just under $42,000. That's more than 10X less that what is cited in the OP.

    Remdsevir is a powerful anti-viral drug, and yes, often causes more harm than good. It was a last-ditch try to save the lives of COVID patients who were almost certainly going to die with no treatment. And no amount of ivermectin was ever going to help these people...unless they drank dirty water contaminated with nematodes?
     
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    There are some people here, NOT me, that think believe the BS MSM.... So expect certain sheeple to negative rep you for their ignorance about what really happened..
     
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    Let me guess, if you believe the CDC, you’re a sheeple. But if you believe every word in an article by the Brownstone Institute, you’re a deep and free thinker?
     
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  19. Gatorrick22

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    I believe too many people died by taking that clot shot... You know I said this a thousand times before.

    Are you surprised... or did you forget that I have been saying that during the whole PLANdemic??
     
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  20. duggers_dad

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    Why would anyone be suspicious of a government agency that is funded in part by the companies it regulates and which allowed teachers unions to shape its school lockdown and masking strategies ?
     
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