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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. docspor

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  2. QGator2414

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    Yes a clown gif is in need for those still peddling these shots…
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    Even Paul Offit will no longer be taking the shot. At some point the few here will start listening…

    Paul Offit (72) is not getting a booster and neither should any healthy person who had COVID”

    Paul Offit (72) is not getting a booster and neither should any healthy person who had COVID
     
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  4. mutz87

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    Uh, that is not a conclusion you can draw from the numbers.

    You would know this if you understood statistical inference.
     
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  5. QGator2414

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    I know you understand the way to beat Covid (be healthy and you are on that journey!!!). And it is not the shot. The great Paul Offit along with the vast majority of doctors do not recommend listening to the idiots in Washington/Public Health/fda/cdc.

    You do you. But this shot is unnecessary. I just hope you do not give it to your kids or grandkids. If you want to take a shot that has no evidence to support taking and be part of the less than 10%. Go for it. Just please do not give it to a child!
     
  6. mutz87

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    What I know that this is not about me or what I think about vaccines, but about what you claimed.

    It's about how you can't claim that 90% of the public suddenly "sees what happened" The percentage of those with the latest booster doesn't tell us anything about why people got it or not.
     
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  7. QGator2414

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    I am just stating what I see. You will get there. You very well know that most people including doctors are not going to touch these shots now.
     
  8. duggers_dad

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    You people appealing to expertise, I’ve become an expert of sorts …

    I’ve become an expert in noting that viruses have never been isolated, i.e., shown to exist.

    I’ve become an expert in noting that 50+ transmission studies are inconclusive.

    Finally, I’ve become an expert in noting the correlation between vaccine uptake and excess mortality in many countries across the world.
     
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    Even Newsom is admitting Cali got it way wrong on the lockdowns and school closures. But him to say everyone didn't know was wrong. DeSantis did follow what he saw in Europe and it was the right decision. A lot of posters on here need to admit they were wrong on Lockdowns, school closures, masks and natural immunity. But we know that won't ever happen LOL.

    ‘We would’ve done everything differently’: Newsom reflects on Covid approach
     
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    ^ My question to Governor Newsom is, if he regrets not handling things differently, is that an admission that his wrongful actions result in large scale human devastation ?
     
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    That's the thing, what you think you're seeing is based on flawed reasoning and on your beliefs.
    What you leave out is also a big part this problem. Even now, with Offit e.g., who by the way is not against vaccines like you are, came out publicly in saying that in his opinion, healthy people (now) don't need the new booster. Yet, you've run with it as to suggest that not only Offit, but the vast majority of doctors and the public are suddenly against vaccines like you are.

    It's far more likely that the public doesn't perceive the same risk compared to when the pandemic was in full swing in 2020 - 2021 and given how many are fully vaxxed/boosted already, are simply more hesitant and uncertain about another one, or it's a lower priority given how the urgency has changed, or for other mundane reasons such as simply putting it off. Bottom line is the context changed, but rather than trying to understand the shifting attitudes, you're trying to make it fit your narrative. So not only bad statistical inference, but several classic errors in reasoning.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    For those of you here who agreed with lockdowns, do you now acknowledge that they were a catastrophic mistake ?
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    I am not against vaccines at all. That is ridiculous. I even supported these shots in the beginning for high risk groups. Granted I believe I was wrong now.

    The worst part of this is that we now have $#!? science being pushing with garbage studies paid for and controlled by big pharma. You will see it one day. It was happening before Covid. But this brought it front and center.

    You know how to protect yourself from Covid. And it is not the shot. It is being healthy. The good news is you are on that journey. Please don’t let your family members take any more of these shots unnecessarily. Especially kids!
     
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    Exactly.

    And we are still getting it right in Florida. While less than 10% will listen to the fools at the cdc and fda. Ladapo continues to follow the science and provide sound medical advice. There is no need to take the shot now. But some are so blinded in their hatred for DeSantis and Ladapo….they are going to take it in spite lol.
     
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    All the covid nazis...

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  17. mutz87

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    yeah, you've railed against them constantly for two years, and called people idiots for getting them. Don't try to then say you're not against them.
     
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    I’m against all vaccines.

    Come at me, bro!
     
  19. QGator2414

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    I absolutely am against them today. But spare me the calling people idiots. If you want to take an unnecessary drug. Go for it. The idiots are the ones at the cdc and fda pushing propaganda. And I was always against them for young healthy people. It is anti science and anti medicine what we did with the roll out.

    Just keep up the good work as you know how to protect yourself. And please don't let your kids and grandkids take anymore shots if they ever took one in the first place. As it was absolutely wrong to ever give authorization to give one of these shots to a young healthy person.
     
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  20. QGator2414

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    While I am not. I side much more with your side these days. Though certain drugs I do think are safe and should be taken.

    Just wait for it with paxlovid. It will come out that not only was it not worth taking but it will be more detrimental than beneficial. Big pharma has millions controlled and owned right now.