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  1. tommyvee

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    Mowins and Stormy are a package deal. You have to take both. Sorry.
     
  2. UF24ou14

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    How were they last night?
     
  3. TrueGator

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    So, your facts are wrong. Two national championships in the last 20 years. We haven't sucked for 20 years.
     
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  4. gbranton

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    Reading is fundamental. Show me where I said we have sucked every year for the past twenty years and I will say I was wrong. In the last twenty there have been two Nattys and an 11-2 Muschamp outlier, but YES there has been a LOT of irrelevance, ineptitude and frustration mixed in, that is a FACT. My comment stands. You want to act like my opinion counts for nothing simply because I haven’t been a member very long, like you are somehow a bigger fan than I am.
     
  5. TrueGator

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    "...if Beth is calling the game your team sucks. She has called a lot of Gator games the last twenty years."
     
  6. gbranton

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    Again. You don’t seem to be capable of grasping the point the point here. Beth Mowins doesn’t call Gator games when we were winning, or anyone else’s, she doesn’t generally call games by teams in the Top 25, probably because she isn’t a hit with fans, at least the ones I have known over the years.
     
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  7. tommyvee

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    TBF we haven’t had many Beth games.
     
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  8. gbranton

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    A lot does not equal all. Never did. Never will. End of conversation.

    In the past twenty years (2002-2022) Florida has finished with a winning percentage of 0.6XX or less fourteen times. Nine times we finished out of the top 25. So yes, UF has spent a lot of time (too much) being irrelevant.

    If she calls an average of 3-5 games a year over fourteen seasons that is a lot of games and a lot of pain for Gator Nation.
     
  9. paidinfull

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    You must get your games on a different channel, or you’re including sports other than football. When did Mowins call 5 of our football games in a single year? Much less an average anywhere near that over 14 seasons?

    Maybe she calls more of our games than I remember, but sure doesn’t seem like that many. I don’t really like any of the idiotic talking heads on any of the channels so I generally pay little attention to what any of them are saying, but Mowins usually gets the mute button or music in the background because her voice is like nails on a chalkboard. I don’t remember listening to music during that many football games.
     
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  10. gbranton

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    I would bet we’ve had a “lot” for a team of what I perceive to be UF’s stature. I think UF is a top university but my point was we’ve spent a lot of time struggling for a top tier school that has won a few National Championships, more than many schools in the SEC. My “lot” is compared to the Bamas, LSUs, and Georgias of the world, teams I think we SHOULD be competing with, that’s all.
     
  11. TrueGator

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    Oh, believe me, I'm fully grasping what you're throwing out there. OK, let's work on facts. How many Gator games has Mowins broadcast over the last 20 years? And, in which of those broadcast years did the Gators carry a losing record, hence "sucked"? Let's start with the facts that she only began broadcasting NCAA games in 2005, and that the Gators have only had four losing seasons since 1980. They've also been to the SEC Championship seven times since 2000. Mowins probably gets thrown in on directional non-conference games as much as she gets assigned games between losers. You are doubling down on the implication that Mowins only broadcasts for bad teams, and that we have been a bad team a lot for the last twenty years. Not buying it.
     
  12. KronoGator

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    No we haven't, here's the full list (according to UF game notes)

    2015 Vanderbilt, 2017 Texas A&M, 2017 FSU, Yesterday.
     
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  13. KronoGator

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    To be fair, Beth didn't do a lot of UF games when they were dominating because most of our games weren't on ESPN channels, FSN/JP/CBS/PPV took up a lot, it was 2-3 games a year until 2010 when the contract changed.

    Now that the SEC will be 100 percent on ESPN channels expect to get Beth more and more.
     
  14. gbranton

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    Surprisingly each year there are only four main announcing teams for ESPN/ESPN2 CFB broadcasts each year. Then there are a few more scattered over late night/ESPNU/SEC Network platforms. She has been on one of the four most years in recent history. It isn’t out of the realm of possibility that for a struggling team you may draw her a few times per season. This of course doesn’t count CBS, who seem to always get the LSU and Georgia games and more when UF is winning of course.
     
  15. TrueGator

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    So, then she has broadcast our games in the past during one year that we had a losing record, and one that we went to the SEC Championship game.
     
  16. gbranton

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    I looked for some solid information on this and wasn’t able to find it. I’d like to know just for fun now that we are so far down the rabbit hole on this so that I can either admit defeat or perhaps call a truce. My initial comment was something I threw out there that I had hoped a few people would think is funny and then move on until whomever began insulting me seemingly on the basis of my tenure here, like I’m not a real fan or something and yes I feel like taking my post out of context. For the record every game she calls to me seems like a dozen, maybe my mind is playing tricks on me.
     
  17. HomeGrownGator

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    I prefer to consider Stormy the focus of the thread rather than Beth! :D

     
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  18. gbranton

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    She might be the best thing to happen to CFB since Erin Andrews.
     
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  19. KronoGator

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    UF posts pre game notes for all their games, and they are still up for as far back as 2002, they list who is doing the broadcasts.

    I simply had nothing to do for the past hour so I checked :D
     
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    These are just some of the oddities I remember and also read on the game thread:
    Called Montrell Johnson "Jackson" at least three plays in first series where he carried, changing to "Montrell" for his touchdown.
    Used "Eugene Wilson" in the first half and "Tre" in the second half as if someone had to tell her what he prefers to go by
    Called Ricky Pearsall, Billy Pearsall
    Calls Kissimmee, Florida "Kiss-a-me"
    Called the score "26 Love" going into halftime
    and many others during the game as I seemed to complain about every 10-minutes about another screw-up / disrespect of our players. It's one thing to maybe not have a great voice, not bring a lot of different perspectives to the game as far as play calling, but to repeatedly call players by the wrong name like we're listening to an 85-year old with dementia trying to keep up? It's just absurd. If this is what ESPN comes up with scouting broadcast booth talent... there must be something more to her ESPN continued employment, but I'm not going to speculate.
     
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