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The IRS plans to crack down on 1,600 millionaires to collect millions of dollars in back taxes

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8tas, Sep 8, 2023.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    yes, it will more than cover the cost of the agents. the whole ammo thing is just another Q bs
     
  2. ridgetop

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    Not really the point though was it. Do you really think the IRS and our tax code are optimal? You think it’s so great we should just keep growing it and growing it and growing it?
     
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  3. ridgetop

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    Also
    The IRS did buy up tons of ammo. Close to 760,000 dollars worth. Is that a conspiracy? No. Agents need ammo.. I guess… but it absolutely happened and wasn’t a Q lie.
     
  4. vaxcardinal

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    No clue. But your assertion that all are corrupt is without evidence either. I would think most government employees take their oath seriously.
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

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    no i think ti sucks but what sucks worse are people not playing by the rules because they believe they can get away with it since the enforcement staff has been cut so far back
     
  6. G8trGr8t

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    yes they bought ammo but all the nefarious suppositions put forth by the far right are straight up bs
     
  7. ridgetop

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    I didn’t say all were corrupt. I said that would be hard for to believe that govt agencies aren’t corrupt. There is a difference and words matter. I said every agency (e Tory) I could think of was corrupt on some level. From dog cachet to epa to local police to federal police. I left plenty of room to be wrong and would be happy if I was. I offered MY experience not a broadbrush painting.
     
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  8. ridgetop

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    Right… cause people have t been getting away with it for years…. As long as the IRS has been around. It’s not a man power issue.. it’s an agency issue.
    But still not the point. The point is most on this thread dont want millionaires cheating in their taxes.. they want the irs to be run efficiently and fairly. They think that would be the better answer.
     
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  9. thomadm

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    Sounds like you were a pawn in the system. Im not going after the gov workers, they for the most part are just doing whatever their bosses tell them. But the system is corrupt, and people take advantage, including govt workers.
     
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  10. ridgetop

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    Did I mention any of that? No. You didn’t either. You claimed that the irs buying up ammo was Q bs. It wasn’t.
     
  11. slocala

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    Establish system
    —> people exploit system
    System is corrupted
    —> hire more people to fix system
    Regulation + established system
    —> more people exploit system
    System is re-corrupted
    —> hire more people to fix system…


    Republican solution:
    dismantle a system and see what happens.
    —> problems, need a system
    Build a new system to address current problems.
    —> Once corrupted, dismantle again and rebuild.

    Lesson: any system will become corrupted with people. There is no utopian answer where Republicans or Democrats can win…
     
  12. danmanne65

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    I am not understanding this. Go step by step and explain to me why skeletor shouldn’t still be in prison. Remember I am slow.
     
  13. ridgetop

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    It’s ok… I don’t know why he isn’t in jail. That is why I asked was he indicted or found guilty by a court of law. If not then I guess that answers the question.
    Assumed innocence until PROVEN guilty.
    I haven’t defended him. I don’t really like him. But there seems to be a double standard floating around here. For years the answer to anything Hillary related was … was she indicted? Was she found guilty…
    Does the same not hold true for Scott?
     
  14. channingcrowderhungry

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    This thread is about the IRS going after 1600 ppl who owe back taxes. Nothing is about new agents. Nobody has mentioned new agents. Try hard and focus on the topic at hand.
     
  15. Orange_and_Bluke

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    You’re misunderstanding of the subject matter is worrisome.
    I committed to the debate knowing that everyone knew that fact.
    You can dismiss it, but it’s still true.
     
  16. vaxcardinal

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    Werfel said a massive hiring effort and AI research tools developed by IRS employees and contractors are playing a big role in identifying wealthy tax dodgers.
     
  17. swampbabe

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  18. channingcrowderhungry

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    My bad. I missed that part of the article and only saw where he said funding increases and ai helped. But that's even better news then. If increased funding and hiring has already lead to uncovering millionaires that owe a bunch of back taxes, that's an awesomely quick turnaround. Law and order baby.
     
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  19. PITBOSS

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    Does maga have an alternative for thwarting tax cheats? (Does maga ever try to build and improve vs only destroy and divide? but another conversation). Interstates don’t pop out of the ground and Abrams tanks don’t grow in fields. no one likes paying taxes. But we have to pay taxes and yes that includes maga. Just cutting taxes and continue borrowing isn’t a viable option.
     
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  20. QGator2414

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    Love this…

    I have only had to deal with the irs once. The first loan on our commercial building was an SBA loan. And for some reason Bank of America and the CDC did not report our interest paid. So my accountant had the interest deducted on the wrong line. I got a bill for $19K with penalties over a legal deduction. If the banks send in the paperwork all good. End of the day it should have been a fax and done deal. The stupid thing took over a year to resolve. I ended up having to pay my account $1K because some idiot at the irs had no clue what they were doing (well I think I was targeted because it made no sense what the agent for the irs would say). At the end of the day my accountant a year in got someone on the phone and pretty much said this needs to stop and they said don’t respond and let it go to the judge. It never got to the judge. I sure hope the attorney for the irs that got the case wrote up the idiot agent that had no clue what they were doing. After ignoring the letter we got a zeroed out bill as the attorney clearly knew we did nothing wrong. So no judge needed. No apology. And no reimbursement for my costs on something that should have been a fax and done.

    A complete waste of time for the irs and an unnecessary $1K bill for me.
     
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