Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Hey, Gator Fans: It's Your Fault Billy Napier is Failing (article)

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by DeepPurpleGator, Sep 5, 2023.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. DeepPurpleGator

    DeepPurpleGator GC Hall of Fame

    8,143
    136
    333
    Jun 13, 2007
    There's a lot here I agree with - what are your thoughts? Note: please READ article before providing thoughts -- that should be obvious, but...

    Florida Gator fans' complaints are the reason the college football power hasn't been a national factor in some time.

    Hey, Gator Fans: It's Your Fault Billy Napier is Failing
     
    • Dislike x 2
    • Winner x 2
    • Come On Man x 2
    • Optimistic x 1
    • Best Post Ever x 1
  2. WC53

    WC53 GC Hall of Fame

    4,707
    994
    2,088
    Oct 17, 2015
    Old City
    Hmmm
    Media is the problem
    And hiring duds, unless of course our castoffs have gone on to greatness.
     
    • Agree Agree x 5
    • Wish I would have said that Wish I would have said that x 1
  3. tommyuf21

    tommyuf21 GC Hall of Fame

    7,493
    205
    258
    Apr 8, 2007
    Fans are not responsible for bad hires, which there have several since Meyer.

    The fans won’t be the reason for the next coaching change either.
     
    • Agree Agree x 6
    • Winner Winner x 3
    • Like Like x 1
  4. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    15,214
    13,198
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    Yes, we are the only fan base in the country that acts like this. :rolleyes:
     
    • Winner Winner x 6
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  5. g8trjax

    g8trjax GC Hall of Fame

    5,164
    438
    293
    Jun 1, 2007
    LOL, did muschamp and butters ghost write it?
     
    • Funny Funny x 8
    • Like Like x 3
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
  6. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

    8,857
    2,078
    1,483
    May 31, 2007
    Fresno, CA
    The author never seemed to make the connection between fan complaints and two #3s on the field simultaneously, eight players on field-goal defense, no improvement in discipline-related penalties, or the QB consistently (not as a busted play) throwing short of the line to gain on third down. If I don’t know how I caused it, how am I supposed to change my behavior?
     
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2023
    • Winner Winner x 8
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Like Like x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
  7. DeepPurpleGator

    DeepPurpleGator GC Hall of Fame

    8,143
    136
    333
    Jun 13, 2007
    Some of you read really fast. :confused:
     
    • Funny Funny x 3
  8. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

    15,714
    26,016
    3,363
    Aug 6, 2008
    Tampa
    With the portal and NIL, there is no reason to wait 5 years. A turn around can happen in 2-3 years.
    I'm not talking winning a NC but year over year improvement and being competitive.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
    • Winner Winner x 1
  9. DeepPurpleGator

    DeepPurpleGator GC Hall of Fame

    8,143
    136
    333
    Jun 13, 2007
    Year over year improvement is definitely possible and it should be expected.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  10. g8wayg8r

    g8wayg8r GC Hall of Fame

    1,242
    257
    1,848
    Apr 8, 2007
    St Charles, MO
    I care to differ, although it's not the only factor. On target article and it's spread to the hoops program as well.

    Don't believe it. Read any talk about the next coach? Checkmate.
     
  11. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

    8,857
    2,078
    1,483
    May 31, 2007
    Fresno, CA
    It wasn’t a particularly long article.
     
    • Agree Agree x 10
  12. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

    15,714
    26,016
    3,363
    Aug 6, 2008
    Tampa
    We didn't see that in the Utah game. It looked like a continuation of last year.
    From both a coaching and player perspective.
     
    • Agree Agree x 5
    • Winner Winner x 1
  13. DeepPurpleGator

    DeepPurpleGator GC Hall of Fame

    8,143
    136
    333
    Jun 13, 2007
    I didn't know that was the only game we were going to play all year. Now I'm sad.
     
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Winner Winner x 3
  14. bgator85

    bgator85 Premium Member

    5,608
    737
    368
    Apr 3, 2007
    Sarasota
    Doesn't the Tennessee example suggest you should keep cycling through coaches until you land on one? Who is to say that sticking with a coach for 5 years and not improving does as much if not more damage to a program? There is no right answer. You either trust the coach to get the job done or you don't, don't worry about the timeline IMO.

    It's easy to blame fans for high expectations, but those high expectations also drive monster donations and allow for massive salaries and fancy facilities. Coaches know what they are getting into when they take this kind of job, if that's not what they want then stay at a lower level.
     
    • Winner Winner x 6
    • Best Post Ever Best Post Ever x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  15. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

    8,857
    2,078
    1,483
    May 31, 2007
    Fresno, CA
    Yeah, I wanted Tennessee to stick with some of those coaches for five years, too. Dooley, in particular.
     
    • Funny Funny x 4
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Winner Winner x 3
  16. Tolbert1906

    Tolbert1906 GC Hall of Fame

    3,770
    198
    288
    Apr 8, 2007
    United States
    • Funny Funny x 18
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 2
  17. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

    15,714
    26,016
    3,363
    Aug 6, 2008
    Tampa
    A win would have been improvement. A loss, now 4 in a row, is a continuation. A win against McNeese won't show us anything.
     
    • Agree Agree x 5
    • Winner Winner x 1
  18. steve6137

    steve6137 GC Legend

    777
    14
    218
    Jul 8, 2009
    Atlanta
    Victim blaming.
     
    • Agree Agree x 5
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Like Like x 2
  19. 62gator

    62gator GC Hall of Fame

    11,076
    4,095
    3,303
    Dec 4, 2007
    Tampa, FL
    “The Florida Gators lost their season opener on Thursday night, and it was never close. From a loaded football-hotbed state in the South, they were manhandled by a program in Utah. The reason? The alumni and fan base. Not the product on the field.”

    huh o_O
     
    • Agree x 10
    • Funny x 3
    • Like x 1
    • Winner x 1
    • Best Post Ever x 1
  20. swampspring

    swampspring GC Legend

    906
    297
    1,943
    Dec 13, 2009
    Patience is one thing. But while the final assessment of any program is wins/losses, that's not the only way to assess a program. You can kind of get an idea through milestones along the way, such as the on-field product, regardless of the final score.

    The product we saw in the first game was abysmal. Yes, it's one game, but you can't expect a fanbase and boosters, who have invested heavily in its success to sit quietly and watch the same mistakes and issues rear their ugly head during our first game, in front of a national audience.

    This is the same stale argument...blame the fans.
     
    • Agree Agree x 6
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.