This is the same as assuming the shooter never called out or warned the kid. We just don’t know. What we do know is the kid tried to enter the wrong house due to being drunk at 2am. The homeowner called the police and then shortly after shot the kid. Did he shoot through the door? Did he warn the kid. Did the kid break the window to come into the house. Was he a belligerent drunk? Yelling and screaming threats because he couldn’t get into his house ( what he thought was his? We just don’t know right.
Other than the article / investigation concluding he made a mistake by going to the wrong house, giving details of what the homeowners did — but not saying he tried to deescalate by talking to him first, and detailing what the student did — but not mentioning him “yelling and screaming and being a belligerent drunk” …. Yeah, I guess we have way to know… I mean, we both can play this game…. What If homeowner was saying to his wife “look at me, I’m Rambo, I always wanted to shoot a kid for little reason, and here’s my chance to do it and get away with it, yee haw” … what if….
That’s my point I was responding to all the people claiming the homeowner should have yelled out.. how do we know he didn’t.. this whole thread is nothing but supposition and mostly to paint the homeowner in a negative light. We don’t know. Did the cops say” well the shooter never tried to de-escalate the situation? No. We do t know.
It wasn't mentioned in the report that the homeowner made any attempt to deescalate, even though it details what the shooter did prior to shooting ... so, you know, that might be a clue that the homeowner made no attempt to deescalate. ... and it really doesn't make any sense for the kid to continue to try to get into the house when there is someone inside the house telling him it's not his house ... right ...? So there is that.
College drunk off his ass starts banging on the door at 2am. Homeowner calls the cops. Cops almost always keep you on the line until a unit arrives College kid tries breaking down the door, hitting and kicking it College kid then breaks the window trying to get it. Dispatch likely still on the line. Report says investigators looked at physical evidence AUDIO EVIDENCE and eye witness evidence And concluded the homeowner was not at fault. Yet somehow someway posters want to put the blame on the homeowner, making up wild suppositions. He shut through the door Never called out to the kid telling him to go away Never tried to de-escalate the situation All without knowing what was said or done between calling the cops and waiting for them to get there. You imagine he sat quietly just waiting for a chance to BLAST the kid? Or does it make more sense that he would have called out I called the cops Or Cops are o. The way. What do you think might be on that audio evidence.. pure silence as the door is kicked? Maybe the man was scared to death as someone violently tried to enter his house in the middle of the night. Maybe he sat in the dark praying the cops got there in time. And when the window broke and his perimeter was about to be breached.. he fired. Some just will go to any length to blame the homeowner for protecting his life and property. He had no way of knowing who or what was trying to come into his house.
Again…. I’m not faulting the guy for shooting AFTER the window was broken, but it seems there was pleanty of time before that to not let it get to that stage…. I told you what I would have done — and actually did do —- when some unknown person was banging on my door in the middle of the night — turn on my outside lights and try to talk to them. Post #68 also shows that can work. No one gets killed…. If you don’t agree that was a better alternative, to at least attempt, than killing someone over a mistake, then I don’t know what to tell you.
What’s also funny about this post is that a couple posts back, you were arguing that he should not have called out to the kid and “given up this advantage” after he decided to “go kinetic”….now you have apparently flip flopped and are claiming he probably did try to warn the kid, even though there is no evidence provided or reported so far to support that claim.
I agree that’s a better option IF IT WORKS. Again, we don’t know that the homeowner didn’t try to call out to the kid. It makes far mores sense that he actually did. It also makes sense that the drunk kid didn’t listen. Cops looked all the evidence and didn’t find fault with the homeowner.. including audio evidence.
I think if he had, it would have been mentioned in the report vindicating him, since that’s further evidence the homeowner acted within the law. I’m not saying he didn’t, but at this point, there is no evidence or reports that he did, so I’m going off that….
Have you seen the actual report? I have not. I’m be just seen several news articles about it.I have no idea what evidence the police have seen or haven’t seen. I did se where the chief of police said they looked at all the evidence and that the homeowner was in the clear. While I might have handled the situation much differently ( as I stated in my first post) I do not find fault with th homeowner for defending his property nor do I believe it was on him to go the extra mile to de escalate what from his point of view was a home invasion.
I've read some articles that include fairly detailed information on what the homeowners did prior to the shooting, like who called the police, what room they were in, who went to fetch the gun, etc .... and not a single word about them warning the college student or calling out to him. Look, you are one claimed someone happened, so you offer the evidence that it did happen, OK?
Read this from an article: No charges will be filed in the shooting death of a South Carolina college student who tried to get into the wrong house, officials say | CNN As the woman was on the phone with dispatchers, Donofrio broke the front door glass window and reached inside to manipulate the doorknob,” the release says. While I feel it's incredibly sad that a young man was killed, given this info, I must admit that it appears to be a justifiable shooting.
"he made a mistake by going to the wrong house" Homeowner had no way to know that. Maybe he intended to rape and steal. Thank God for our 2nd A.
While, by the available reporting this appears to be a legally justifiable shooting, it would also appear that this was a drunk college student that made a mistake. If that's the case, this is a tragic situation, not one to be thanking God for our firearms over. Your suggestion he was there to "rape and steal" is nothing but the rankest of speculation.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms to shoot drunk college students who mistakenly try to enter homes, shall not be infringed.
