We have a teacher shortage, and have dealt with that for the past few years. Teachers work long hours and don't get paid what they are worth. Let's attract the best and brightest to our state. IMHO we are wasting money. I don't believe the pop ups will go away unless the government intervenes. I'd like to see the private schools be accountable just like the publice ones are. I want to see teachers with degrees, curriculum with options of not taking a religious class, and make them test the kids just like our public schools do. That's when the pop ups will disappear.
To be clear you are equating lavish vacations with a child’s education? Damn, those poor kids can just fend for themselves at a dangerous or subpar schools. Too bad for them. Boston public schools spent 26,000.00 per child per year and have been skewed for being so terrible. Kids graduate and can’t spell on a 6th grade level. Can’t do basic algebra. Are there terrible private schools? Yep. Are there terrible public schools? Yep.
Anecdotal for sure.. but every private school I have worked with does standardized testing, require teachers to have degrees and be certified. Some required a bible class some didn’t. Again. There are many very good private schools that offer a better education, more extra curricular options and safer environments than the public alternatives. And there are plenty of public schools that are down right dangerous, subpar academically and barely more than a daycare.
Im a voucher supporter in principle. Or at least I’m voucher curious. The major argument for them is really one about how knowledge is created. In my view, societal knowledge is mostly derived from evolutionarily, via variation and failure. Try different combinations and actually see if they work. The current public school system utilizes more of a rationalist approach, where a single system survives indefinitely and is improved via rational argument. I think the evolutionary approach will almost always lead to better outcomes in the long run. That said, even if one agrees with me about the evolutionary approach and grants a pure voucher system without agendas or cash grabs, vouchers still may be seen as undesirable from a moral perspective, as one of its most fundamental attributes is variation. Therefore, it would necessarily lead to very different experiences for different children at any one time. The can obviously seem unfair, and I appreciate that perspective. But anyway, I think there is a legitimate argument for vouchers in principle, even if it is not a definitive one.
And how many of these "cultural lifestyle" families actually get benefit of School Vouchers? 1%? what about the other 99% of "cultural lifestyle" families that actually get less since money for public education is decreased to pay for School vouchers?
I will play devils advocate here, because I like the challenge. 55” tv- home schooling often uses a bunch of media content to supplement written instructions, just like public schools, who all have TVs in or available for the classroom. stand up paddle boards. Physical education is required. SUP is great exercise. In school they have everything from archery, paddle board, crew, gym equipment. Home schooling can’t compete with that. Disney. Two words: Ep Cot. That park is educational visit the different countries, the aquarium, some of the rides. Then you have the whole zoo at the Animal Kingdom, which is very educational. I have no issues with any of these 3 things. At 1st glance they may seem extreme, but they really aren’t when all things considered, Now, if you want to attack me, please start every attack with “Are you for real….”
Is Florida still allowing private schools to operate without oversight and regulations? If so, count me out. Public money, public scrutiny.
You might be onto something. EPCOT could be educational. Some of these parents could take their kids there and teach them how to build a wall around Mexico. By the way, EPCOT is an acronym for "Experimental Community of Tomorrow." It is not two words.
Nah, but I found it to be interesting. He's also no devils advocate... or is it the devil's in the details?
Assuming schools have TV’s in every room nowadays - or something like athletic or gym equipment, it’s at least shared among dozens if not hundreds of kids throughout the day. These are fixed assets that stay in the school from year to year. It’s quite a different thing for the govt to just buy these things for people to have in their own living room and garages, esp if they don’t actually need government assistance. In effect, this is the govt buying them additional/better toys. Something something welfare queens. Not sure “every kid gets a laptop” is realistic or actually happens anywhere (although I’m aware of efforts to attempt this type of support, I don’t know how widespread it’s gotten). Hypothetically if public school kids were getting individual devices such as laptops or tablets, then it’s only fair that home schooled kids could get those devices too. But the “voucher” kids shouldn’t be getting bennies that public school kids do not, and I think in these examples given public school kids (and their families) certainly don’t get those assets to take home.
@UFLawyer I’ll give you the devils advocacy as I was thinking along those lines for legitimacy and rationale. But what’s the complete list? Monitors, paddle boards and Epcot. Ok, I get it but what about keyboard/mouse, rowing machine and the Museum of Florida History in Tallahassee? Or any of 500 other combinations. It’s like playing Voucher Clue. I’ll take the tablet with the weight set and a ticket to the Dali Museum, please.
I offered two pieces of literature, both grounded in research. I also offer my informed opinion as a former school teacher and current teacher educator/scholar/practitioner. Sorry to respond, then, but I'd add that I never called you are anyone else an idiot. Edit: Ok, maybe I did
