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MAGA is a death cult

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by pkaib01, Aug 29, 2023.

  1. GatorFanCF

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    AP FACT CHECK: Biden goes too far in assurances on vaccines

    1. Biden claim and
    2. CDC is part of Fed government

    Sorry - there was overreach and false claims by many in the Federal government. To the point - why shut people down in conjunction with social media if you have the truth on your side? The fact that this thread takes “a study” saying people “expressed concerns” = death cult proves the point. Go ahead - use another straw man to imply 80 million Americans are in a death cult. SMDH.
     
  2. g8trjax

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    Yep, how many hundreds of times did you hear 'pandemic of the unvaccinated'...anything else is just revisionist history.
     
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  3. citygator

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    My advice to MAGAs is to not get any vaccinations nor listen to anything health officials tell you. We will all be better off in the long run.
     
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  4. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Well and lets not forget that annoying sisters are doody heads! (If mine are lurking... Im just kidding.)


    Sorta.
     
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  5. GatorFanCF

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    Ah, yes - the gentle, inclusive and diverse voice of the Left.
     
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  6. mutz87

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    Maybe not a death cult, but if covid did anything, it was to expose a stunning level of ignorance & irrationality among those 80m and it cost a lot of folks their health and/or their lives.

    Yes, in that public forum Biden went to far, and that hurts his cause, so to speak. But have you heard anyone from the CDC make claims in the absolute way you framed it?
     
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  7. GatorFanCF

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    Ahem, it’s called nuance.
    No bitching - not blinding accepting every pronouncement from authority, or from those with whom I disagree. Sorry we don’t fit into your imagined narrative where everyone and everything is either a deranged MAGA cult follower or an erudite, educated and wise observer of all things. You’ve taken the bait, and swallowed hard.
     
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    sadly, it cost some by being anti-science, anti-medical community.


    Covid death rates higher among Republicans than Democrats, research shows
     
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    Speaking of cults, this article argues, based upon input from former cult members, that Trump/MAGA is essentially a cult. Ultimately what eventually brings it down will be the death of his older generation supporters.


    Those who call Trumpism a cult can point to his popularity with Republican voters increasing with each of his four criminal indictments. A CBS poll in late August revealed that the most trusted source of information among those voters—more than conservative media, family members, or clergy—is that famed straight shooter Donald J. Trump.

    Diane Benscoter, the cult expert and former cult member (a “Moonie” of the Unification Church) who compared Trump to a cult leader on CNN, still believes what she said. She’s been working with two incarcerated January 6 participants at the request of their lawyers, not so much to persuade them to recant as to help them with their behavior and attitude while in court—for example, no shouted accusations about the “deep state.” The work is difficult and slow, she told me, even more difficult than her recent efforts to “deprogram” India Oxenberg, one of the high-profile women caught up in NXIVM, the sex cult masquerading as a self-improvement course.

    Steven Hassan, another former cult member (also a Moonie), published his book The Cult of Trump in 2019, long before the attack on the Capitol, even before Trump persuaded thousands of his followers to gather indoors unmasked during the worst airborne pandemic in a century. Hassan told me that the MAGA movement checks all the boxes of his “BITE” model of cult mind control—behavior, information, thought, and emotional control. Like all cult leaders, he argues, Trump restricts the information his followers are allowed to accept; demands purity of belief (beliefs that can change from moment to moment, as per his whims and needs); and appeals to his followers through the conjuring of primal emotions—not just fear but also joy.

    His rallies, as so many have reported, are ecstatic events; people cheer and laugh as their various enemies are condemned and insulted. Hassan will be the first to tell you that being part of a cult means you’re empowered, special, one of the elect, close to the person who has all the answers/will lead us to paradise/will “make America great again.” That, in fact, may be the greatest disincentive to turn away from Trump: Nothing is more fun than knowing that you and your friends are the ones who are right about everything.
     
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  11. rtgator

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    Antivaxxer claims that the vaccines "didn't work" were uninformed BS.

    The vaccines were developed initially to prevent people infected with Covid from getting very sick, being hospitalized, and dying. The vaccines were VERY EFFECTIVE in this regard. Vulnerable people were far less likely to die from Covid if they were vaccinated, and most people in the hospital were unvaccinated.

    It was also hoped that the vaccines would reduce the transmission of Covid. The vaccines proved to be much less effective in reducing transmission. While they helped reduce transmission somewhat, you could still get sick and pass on Covid even if you were vaccinated. BUT YOU'D BE FAR LESS LIKELY TO DIE.

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