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Trask is killing it........ [Tampa/NFL Discussion]

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by ncgator015, Aug 2, 2023.

  1. Gatorrick22

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    Sounds like a one year deal to suck for Luck.... err... some other QB deal.
     
  2. Gatorrick22

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    Maybe that organization is taking a page our of Denver's book by sucking (like in the such for Luck) to "earn" the first overall pick?
     
  3. Gatorborn

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    In case anyone is interested, the Cowboys gave Will Grier a game to show other teams what he could do before they cut him.

    He went 29/35 for 305 yards and 2 tds, he also rushed 10 times for 53 yards and 2 more tds.
     
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  4. murphree_hall

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    Why do they need to get Williams or Maye? Trask’s potential is unknown at this level. Seems premature to declare him unfit without so much as one single start. Mayfield was appointed QB1 off of one drive. He scored in the 3rd preseason game off a 40 yd kick return setting him up at around the 35 yard line with the starters. Meanwhile, Trask engineered a 90+ yard scoring drive. Complete joke.
     
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  5. TrueGator

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    He should be proud. Not many 'noles make it to the Sophomore level.
     
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  6. gator34654

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    I was watching Baker, last two outings he basically threw swing passes for short yardage against second stringers. That's not going to cut it with first team players on D.
    Trask played well, threw downfield, at least this year he has gotten more playing time. Again, I doubt Baker ends the season but we shall soon see.
     
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  7. Wanne15

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    If Trask plays, I’ll watch a little.
     
  8. tegator80

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    If Mayfield is on, I will watch.



    The commercials. They were the best part of his game.
     
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  9. Wanne15

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    Crab legs forever to tgat team, unless Trask plays then I’ll watch.
     
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  10. Rkb75

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    Trask had a strong preseason, but Mayfield was going to start from the gitgo. Front office is paying $4M and absent a meltdown, the job was his.

    key for the Bucs will be the Oline. If they can’t run, it doesn’t matter who the QB is as they will get killed.

    Kyle is taller and can throw the ball down the field. Also showed nice touch on the dink & dunks. Only area where Mayfield is perhaps better is experience and his ability to run for his life.
     
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  11. Wanne15

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    I think you stay healthier in the nfl if you get rid of the ball instead of using your legs. Tua can’t seem to grasp tgat.
     
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  12. GameTime1

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    Paying a QB 4 mil is laughable. I do agree that the season will depend on the OL.
     
  13. Wanne15

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    You know you don’t have a qb if he gets paid in single digit mils and isn’t on his first contract. Just lay down and take it.
     
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  14. GameTime1

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    I’m not sure mayfield can’t/won’t have a good season. I just don’t believe his salary is why he is starting. If the OL can hold their own, the Bucs will surprise some folks.
     
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  15. doeringmortgage

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    Trask not playing is political.

    We all know he can ball.

    Problem has followed him his entire career.
     
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  17. unclerob

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    Trask is pretty good at that. He's not going to run much but he can slid away from the first guy and he knows who he should throw to.
     
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  18. orangeblue_coop

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    Tua's problem isn't that he uses his legs too much, it's that he's small (for his position) and very fragile. Even QBs who are strictly dropback passers who don't run eventually get hit/sacked at some point, Tua's problem is that he gets hurt on those hits.
     
  19. samdingo

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    LOL. Dude, it's the preseason. The lights are on but a) the coach's already have an idea from practice and b) Mayfield will be given every opportunity to win the job because he's getting paid. If they thought Trask was significantly better they'd start him. They don't think that, clearly.

    If you have the opportunity to draft a potentially generational/franchise QB you take it. Could Trask be that? I guess it's possible. Is it likely? Not really. If you had to pick one of Maye, Williams or Trask to have the best NFL career who would you choose?

    They need one of those guys because the NFL is a QB driven league now and you must have elite play to win Super Bowls. Who was the last team to win a Super Bowl without an elite or future HOF at QB? I guess maybe you could say Nick Foles but he played elite for that playoff run. Team was stacked too. Russell Wilson before that? I think he's probably overrated a tad as a prototypical passer, not to say he isn't effective because he is/was, but the defense and Lynch were the special sauce on that team, not Wilson. Joe Flacco? He's prolly not a Hall of Famer but he is Hall of Very Good and like Seattle it was kind of the defense that did the heavy lifting for the Ravens. I know people crap on Eli Manning but 2 Super Bowls.

    IMO you have to go all the way back to the 2002 Buccaneers for the last time a true, non franchise QB won the Super Bowl and that would be journeyman Brad Johnson and like the Ravens and Seahawks the defense carried that team. The offense was good too. Really good actually. Not generational or anything but they were capable of winning games should the defense had struggled or whatever.

    Point is a dynamic franchise QB is the biggest, most obvious prerequisite to win a Super Bowl in the NFL these days. The days of defenses carrying teams to Super Bowls are over. They can be instrumental but the game has changed so much in such a short period of time.
     
  20. samdingo

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    Going ad hominem baby!