LeBron James' son, Bronny, suffers 'cardiac arrest,' family spokesperson says

LOL!

You need to go talk to your doctor about dealing with CVD! The fact you state that if one is worried about a heart attack they have two options and one is a new drug that does not even work to prevent you from getting the disease defines the power of propaganda. The other to do nothing and live in a bubble?! I have to admit. I knew you are flat out consumed by the propaganda. But I did not think it was this bad.

You would get more benefit by following the antiquated ways we address CVD now. But there are many advancements in how to address CVD. And the covid shot is not one of them. LOL!!!

 

I posted three studies that all show the risk of a serious CVD from getting COVID. And all three show a significant decrease in CVD if one is vaccinated. Who cares if you get a breakthrough case if when vaccinated, you are far less sick, get better faster, and among many other benefits, lower your risk of serious heart disease! Your argument is akin to saying a seat belt won't prevent you from getting in a car accident, so you should ignore all the benefits of wearing one!

Your argument ludicrously stupid. The benefits of the vaccine, including significantly reducing the risk of CVD from COVID can't be ignored just because the vaccine doesn't do a great job of preventing break though cases. Can you explain, logically, why I shouldn't reduce my risk of serious CVD from COVID because the vaccine might not prevent me from getting COVID?

And as always, you ignore all the data that shows there is no correlation between an increase in CVD and the vaccine. There is a small risk of myocarditis from the vaccine, but almost all cases are extremely minor, requiring monitoring only. Meanwhile, the risks from infection and not being vaccinated are significantly greater than the minute risk from the vaccine. But by your logic, a bulletproof vest won't stop you from getting shot, so no reason to ever wear one at all!

 

I don’t ignore anything. Unlike you I looked at the data. And knew from the very beginning this was not dangerous to me or the vast majority of people. I know ignoring the real data out of Italy. The Diamond Princess. Shoot even New York allows you to be consumed in fear.

But if you think the covid shot or living in a bubble is the best way to deal with CVD. Okay LOL!

A dental practice can provide you far more information to help you potentially deal with CVD by taking a salivary test to see what bacteria is in the mouth (obviously there are other blood tests/tests/scans that are integral in dealing with CVD). But you go take another booster lol!

 

You've ignored and/or ridiculed the data from the beginning. No virus is going to be extremely deadly. That's because a virus needs live hosts in order to replicate. Dead people are of no value to a respiratory virus.

And public health is about helping the most amount of people possible. If a vaccine reduces the mortality rate by just .1%, that's only a difference in 1 in 1000 people. Statistically, probably won't effect you either way. However, in a population of millions, it will mean saving thousands of lives. The vaccine lowered the mortality rate even more than .1%.

And that's just one benefit of the vaccine. The data also shows a significant decrease in CVD between those unvaccinated who get COVID, and those who are vaccinated with a breakthrough case. So, if you want to lower your chances of a serious CVD, your options are 1) never get COVID or 2) get vaccinated. Plenty of data, three studies from three countries worth of data that all agrees with this statement.

Public health is not about the individual; something again you seem to forget. And even if the vaccine doesn't do a great job of preventing a breakthrough case, all the benefits from the vaccine far outweigh the negatives for the public at large. Again, your logic is akin to saying one should never wear a seatbelt, because it doesn't prevent car accidents. Or LEOs should never wear a vest because it won't prevent them from getting shot at. Pretty silly, isn't it?

 

Public health has an obligation to protect all groups. The one size fits all approach was the antithesis of medicine and science.

We got a definition of what not to do ever again!

 

The definition of public health is looking at the health of the population as a whole. Public health officials put out what is best for the public at large, and will always tell individuals to consult their own physicians about their own, unique cases. A good public health official will never tell an individual they know more about their own case than their individual doctor.

A good public health official will, however, look at what benefits the population as a whole. And if something significantly benefits 999 and potentially saves at least two lives out of this population, but potentially hurts or kills 1, the public health official will go with what helps the most. Lockdowns fit this description. The vaccine absolutely fits this description, as it saved thousands and all data points to the vaccine causing very minimal harm, minus the deaths from the J&J vaccine, which was subsequently pulled from the shelves.

Your lack of understanding of a public health crisis and how public health officials work is astounding. It doesn't help that elected officials like Trump doesn't understand either, and literally threw the Pandemic Playbook into the garbage. That's done true generational garbage as there are now idiots like yourself who think they know more than doctors, don't trust peer reviewed articles because of where they are published, and think public health is about the individual, and not about the whole population.

You make the case that because the vaccine isn't effective at preventing COVID, you shouldn't take it, while ignoring all the massive benefits the vaccine has. Again, this is like telling someone a seat belt won't prevent a car accident, so don't wear one. You do realize how silly this sounds, don't you? Or are you willing to continue to tilt at your vaccine windmill in vain attempts to prove all the medical professionals, scientists, and the mountain of data that supports vaccination wrong?

 

Covid is fake.

Vaccines are deadly.

 

And the earth is flat.

 

Non Sequitur. As far as I can tell, I’m living on an oblate spheroid populated by creatures prone to delusion and crimes against one another.

 

Exactly. And we failed!!!

We locked kids out of the safest place for most of them. Put those with the least even farther behind. We did not look at the data for the whole who was at little to no risk for the disease and instead slammed out a shot and lied to the public telling them they would not get the disease when reality was they were going to get the disease regardless. We coerced healthy people to take a shot or lose their livlihood causing a massive mistrust for vaccines that are actually safe and effective with a long record to show this. We peddled made up ideas to protect people. We knew masks did not work. Granted I like the more space in the grocry store line (it was a made up joke).

Public health failed on so many levels. Doctors failed on so many levels. Granted many are in a tough spot as employees now. But most had moved on by 2022 (and sadly now do not have a good place to look for guidance because they know the cdc is a complete joke/but it provides the propaganda for you). Hence you are one of the very few who took boosters (17% and less than 50% of those over 65 have taken the updated booster)...

 

About 30% of all school teachers in the US are 50 or older. Throw in other comorbidities like diabetes, asthma, obesity, tobacco use, etc., and schools are staffed with between 40% and 50% of adults with a comorbidity. And last time I looked, a school without teachers and staff isn't much of a school. How do you isolate the teachers so they don't get COVID? What do you do with a school that has an outbreak?

The failure wasn't on public health officials. It's on politicians who believed they knew better than the actual experts. It created a situation where the public health officials became the bad guys, because the politicians were telling idiots not the truth, but what they wanted to hear. It's the death of expertise, and instead of being frustrated it, you embrace it!

You and your ilk are the joke. Instead of listening to experts who actually knew what they were talking about, and attempting to save lives, you listened to people telling you want you wanted to hear. You have platitudes, like just protect those in the most danger, but no actual plan on how to actually split 50% of the population and keep them away from others. In fact, that's not even possible. Yet, you persist.

Worse off, your attitude on the vaccine is ludicrous. It protects people, and does a lot more good, with minimal harm than you are willing to admit. But the data that shows all this? All you do is ridicule and ignore. More death of expertise, which should be sad. But you cheer and press on.

 

Another thread spammed by the same tired arguments. Including by a poster who will not even accept the medical diagnosis of doctors who identified a congenital condition as the cause of Bronnie's heart attack. With zero information, he asserts that it was "a" cause, and continues to speculate on the vaccine.

That is where the fringe right is. You are wasting your time trying to reason with them with them or to use facts and data.

 

Relax and bear it. It’s karmic blowback for three years of every death was Covid.

 

Stop defending the school shutdowns. They did more damage than anything. It was gross watching the media put a teacher on the screen that did not get Covid in the classroom to insinuate they would.

Look we disagree. You are part of the very few left who can’t move on. I get it. There is a reason on 17% of the population is updated with their booster. And it is because doctors and patients are not listening to the idiots in public health you still admire so much.

 

Another post that purposefully ignores facts. I have acknowledged the diagnosis. Multiple times now. But you keep being a sheep that can’t critically think and analyze because of your bias towards me.

 

How about the hundreds of teachers who got COVID and died? How many more might have died had schools not been shut down in many areas? Do you really care? I do, and so do public health officials, whose job it is to keep the most people healthy as possible.

So, with a school staff of nearly 50% of people with comorbidities, and the pre-vaccine days of no treatment, how do you keep schools open? Do you honestly try and isolate those with co-morbidities? How does that work in real life?

 

At least you seem to understand how to protect yourself from Covid. And it is not the shot. If a teacher did not want to work that is on them. No other profession was used and abused by people like you, msm Public Health and the NEA. Teachers are far better than you give them credit. They know the damage you and your ilk inflicted on the kids they care for. Yes there is a minority like you who still live in fear. But the vast majority know how evil and damaging your position was and continues to be.

Most wanted to do their job! Like everyone else who worked through Covid.

 

Hundreds out of 3.2 million full time teachers died ? Sounds like the Black Plague.

 

How do you keep a school open if just 20% of the staff quits? Aren't most places around the US experiencing teacher shortages as is? And without qualified teachers, just how effective would having the kids in school be?

I don't live in fear. I'm fully vaccinated. My position isn't the damaging one. Yours is. I trust the experts with years of schooling and practical experience. You and your ilk think you know better! It's the death of expertise and had we listened to people like you, there would be thousands more dead teachers. And just how would that have effected the quality education and teacher shortage issue today?

 

Where we lived, when 20% of the staff was out with covid, they just piled students into the auditorium so that two teachers could "supervise" 8 teachers worth of classes. Or had teachers going back and forth across the hallway to "teach" two classes at once. The impact on the education of the kids was less important than proving that covid couldn't stop us from keeping schools open.