Rich Men North of Richmond

saw him about a year ago. great video of the whole show.



funny story. I invited my son. he & his country music loving friend came up from Boulder on a Sun afternoon. I grilled burgers & whatnot. Tyler, the friend who's real into music asked me about what the band we were gonna see sounded like, etc. We get in the car. My wife & son in front, me & Tyler in back. Tyler sez, hey does that band have stuff on Spotify? I say yes, hey son play some Daniel Donato. Tyler & my son went bananas. They yelled, what? We're going to see DD, call James. THey lost their minds. Even though I'd told my son the name a month or so earlier, he'd forgot that was who I'd invited him to see (prob cuz at the time he'd never heard of him). In the meantime, James - the 3rd wheel had been obsessively playing DD & my son & Tyler had become big fans too. I, of course, had no idea that they didn't know that's who were going to see. James hauled ass up to the Fort & made it just in time.

I'm not gonna lie, I thought he played too long. Anyhoo, this go round, an old UF bud (& my best man) will be in town for the show.

 

Haha that’s funny. Yeah my impression was that he’s more or less a jamband. 2 sets & an encore. Lots of extended soloing. I really enjoyed it but was expecting it to be more “country” and not so jammy. Thought his voice was just aight but he can definitely play guitar. I remember being very impressed with the keys player. At one point he picked up a guitar and was just shredding shit. I ran into him in the bathroom during set break. Turns out his name is Daniel also and I was like “shit man, don’t tell him but Daniel might not be the best guitarist named Daniel in his own band!” he got a chuckle out of that.

 

love that guy....I think his name is Nathan....



edit. looks like he has a pretty funky band called Down BOy

 

Wow yeah his name is Nathan. Definitely not Daniel like I heard. Must have really weirded that dude out in the bathroom if he wasn’t f@cking with me.

 

I have heard of him. Good stuff!

 

How much does welfare cost the average taxpayer?

 

Never, thanks for asking.

 

No it doesn't. MAGA white supremacists hate the QOP more than they hate the Dems now, because they think they all turned on them when they didn't block the election from being certified in Congress.

 

Do you realize that your link is nothing but some guy’s letter to the editor? There’s no documentation of those numbers and there’s no sources referenced.

I think that’s totally bogus. There is no way on earth that somebody making $50,000 a year is paying $4000 in taxes going solely to corporate subsidies and not funding anything else in the government.

 

That would fit on the surface, but not in the context of our reality, where all non-religious people have every reason in the world to be angry and combative toward every evangelical/proselytising religious person, because 100% of the religious people in the US fit into one of two categories: either (1) doing everything they can to legally force everyone else to live by their dogma, or (2) do absolutely nothing to stop or even oppose the ones that do. So regardless of whether they're active or passive, they're all enemies of American freedom and basic human rights.

Well I will grant you that, and back up my position to "not the majority". I know I don't read much on these boards, and just like there are always some bad Gator fans, there are plenty of bad liberals who don't practice what they preach.

 

My son finished listening to every Oliver Anthony song on Spotify and thinks they are all really good, especially since he recorded them on his phone. My son thinks they are Levon Helm’s level of melody and lyrics. That is high praise indeed.

 

Oh I think they absolutely do overlap. Like ignorance of the law not being an excuse, ignorance of one's racism doesn't mean it isn't there (nor does it absolve the person of the responsibility to suss it out).

I never thought I was racist when I was younger, but as I matured and progressed with introspection and exploring other points of view, I realized that I absolutely had racist positions and ideologies. That I was completely ignorant of them made them (and thus me) no less racist. To this day, I know there are still tiny shards of racism and bigotry I haven't flushed out, and I think it's in all of us, just like it's impossible to ever be completely unbiased in general.

But there are levels, of course. And when you confront otherwise good and decent people with what is clearly racist positions they hold, that's when their level of investment in that racism comes to the surface. Their willingness to consider and acknowledge errors in judgement and general obliviousness. They will invariably deny and get defensive. But there are many paths from there.

 

YLT live was wild. Their catalog is so prolific for their second set they had a giant wheel somone was invited on stage to spin to determine their playlist. It was things like "Songs that begin with the letter E" or "Songs that mention a bird"

 

I guess it is just definitions. I tend to think of racism as being more extreme, often malicious and intentional. But now racism is synonymous with race based bias and prejudice, so by that definition everybody is racist to some degree.

 

I think there are numerous subsets of both sides that run the gamut. Considering the whole, I can see your point, but I also think that much of what is considered the intolerance of the left, is not social intolerance, but intolerance of empirically bad behaviors and empirically bad beliefs. And it's the good people on the right that are most infuriating for not calling them out in their own house. Which is just pure selfishness, because they refuse to live their true beliefs because they can't afford to lose the votes of the worst dregs of society without losing power.

But when it comes to social intolerance - hating on people because of the way they're born, because of their preferences in life, because of their tastes and choices that don't bother anyone else in function - there is no comparison. I don't think I've lived a year of my life, spanning over half a century, that has seen a more intolerant, hateful and violent group that the MAGA faction of conservatives (and pre-MAGA, as all this violent hate and vitriol started with the Fox News-created Tea Party thugs). I didn't live during the civil rights struggle era, and I imagine it was worse then, but nothing in my lifetime can compare to the intolerance of today's MAGA republicans.

I think that establishment conservatives (those few that are left), could be part of a harmonious, functioning society. But for one thing: their refusal to separate themselves from the MAGA extremists.

The same can't be said for progressives. We rejected Bernie Sanders as a presidential candidate. We don't let the far left minority run the party agenda (and we drew a line in the sand in 2016 at the risk of losing an election...and we lost the election because of it). The establishment/sane conservatives refuse to disavow Trump, even as they hate and despise him and what he did to the party. Mitch McConnell said to leave Trump to the Democrats; "they're going to sink that bastard for us." But they have let the far right wing minority take over the whole party. The extremists like Trump, Margie 3-toes, Gym Jordan, Matt "Traffic" Gaetz - they run the party. They OWN McCarthy.

The majority of Dems simply disagreed with Bernie, so they rejected him at the polls, pissed off the far left wing, who then either cast protest votes or stayed at home enough to lose the White House. The majority of Republicans HATED Trump, but when he won the primary, the voters embraced him, all the politicians who hated him embraced him, and they elected a known criminal, admitted rapist and clear Russian asset to the office of president.

Anyway, I've careened off track...

But there is a very significant reason for this. Right wingers hate liberals, but they don't actually know why. You can see this with basically any and all of the countless man-on-the-street interviews the last 7 years or so. Ask right wingers, particularly MAGAs, what they hate about Biden or Dems, and they will trumpet the Fox News talking points. One follow-up question, though, and their rhetoric falls apart. They HATE CRT and woke...but no, they can never define either; they don't understand what either one is; but they hate it. And the things they do understand - like gun control - well, they've been told for 50 years that the Dems are coming for their guns, and they have never come for their guns. Even the most fervent believer can't ignore on a subconscious level when they cry "wolf" that many times. There's only so much hate you can muster for something that has never actually happened. Likewise, they have never seen a drag queen singing to children at a library; never seen a cross-dressing man hiding in a women's room stall to assault a woman; never seen or heard of any actual pedophilia; never had their business or town burned down by BLM protesters; never once been hurt by whatever they imagine "woke" is.

So even as they drink the koolaid, there is no actual substance to their hate.

Contrast that to progressives, who are having their very lives and freedoms actively taken away by right wing politicians. They have had their family, friends and children murdered by assault rifles; they have had friends and relatives murdered by racist police who kept their jobs; they have had their children brutalized and sometimes murdered by anti-LGBTQ thugs; they have had their rights to reproductive healthcare taken away; they have had their voting rights taken away; they have had someone else's religion forced into their kids' classrooms and their local courthouses; they have had the greatest books in the library banned; they have had their children's history books white-washed; they have had friends and family members die of covid because conservatives wouldn't mask or because they refused to get vaccinated after hearing right wings lies about the vaccine; they have had their neighbors' families separated and their children put in cages and raped by ICE; they have had their Capitol stormed by an armed MAGA mob; etc.

So, yes, absolutely there is a moral conflict with even speaking with people who support the politicians and policies that make all of this possible. And in fact are joyful that it's all happening. We're not just talking about all the espionage and treason, from the DOJ silencing Mueller and misrepresenting and then redacting the majority of the Mueller Report, to the entire GOP abusing the power of their offices to act as Trump's personal defense team...no, we're talking about real day-to-day terrorism against literally everyone in every American community (including all of those that support the terrorists).

So yeah.....it's tough as sh*t to even breathe the same air as conservatives anymore. But again what separates us from them is that we still make the effort to fight those very real and justifiable barriers to social harmony; and most of them do not.

Just walk across any parking lot in the country. How many bumper stickers do you see with disgusting, hateful messages and violence-inducing rhetoric against progressives, like, "Joe and the Ho Must Go!" or "Let's Go Brandon!" or "F*** Your Feelings!", etc.? Anywhere from a couple to a lot, depending on where you are. How many bumper stickers do you see with the same kind of disgusting, hateful messages and violence-inducing rhetoric directed at Trump, Pence, or any other republicans, or conservatives in general? None. Literally none.

 

Absolutely.

 

Politifact verified the $36 for food stamps from a 2012 study, but could not verify the $4,000 figure. So how about we look at this Cato Institute study in the same year of 2012, detailing that $100 Billion a year went to corporate subsidies, which they calculated to be $800 per average household.

It's a smaller gap, but the truth of the meme holds up to scrutiny.

PolitiFact - Facebook post misleads about tax bill breakdown.

https://www.cato.org/cato-handbook-...rate-welfare#seven-harms-of-corporate-welfare

 

never seem them. I think it is postponed until Feb.

 

So you went from $4000 per person to $800 per household. You know, when Trump got numbers that wrong he was called a liar.

By the way, some of those subsidies I am against. But wild exaggeration doesn’t help the discussion.

 

Ha. Just a gimmick! That giant wheel would fit my "catalog" too. Songs that begin with the letter E? "Every Which a Way." Songs that mention a bird? "Do Birds Go to Heaven?" What else was on that wheel?