Man shoots and kills store owner over her rainbow gay pride flag

Proves God has a sense of humor ?

 

Should we talk about psych meds ?

 

good thing I pay no attention to the silly posts written by deeply a uninformed man.

 

The vast majority of New Testament scholars, including well-known atheist Bart Ehrman, believes that what we have today represents what the original writers produced.

 

That's not how I read Ehrman.

 

Would you not have to pay attention to it to respond to it?

 

He comes across differently in his popular writings than in his academic writings.

Is the New Testament Reliable? Even Bart Ehrman Says Yes

 

Oops! Got me there.

 

Is it being reporting that he was taking psych meds?

 

Not quite. I'll respond in greater detail in a little bit when I can

 

The contradictions & confusion are defining characteristics of current rw extremism. I tend to think think many are attracted to police in the sense that the thin blue line is for them protection, viewing police being in common cause with white supremacy. They might not be wrong.

 

NONSENSE! BART is on record that up to 300,000 discrepancies exist among the 4 Gospels. Yes the majority are mistakes of syntax in nature. You need to watch his podcasts, you are way off base.

 

No ORIGINAL Gospels have ever been found, ZERO. I am sure as a Christian you must confess the Gospels are hardly lock step with each other.
Because they are not.

That's what happens when copies are made of copies are made of copies with different translations, interpretations and scribe corrections.

 

OK. Have a few minutes


I read a bit of the linked piece. I think I got its flavor and what it’s trying to do. I've also read a fair amount of Ehrman, although obviously only his popular stuff. Also read Borg, Crossan and others who I'm sure I can't remember. I went through a time reading lots of books from participants in the Historical Jesus project, probably 20 years ago.


But the piece refers to whether we have the “original New Testament”. There's a fair bit of linguistic legerdemain in that particular construction. First, they are likely referring to the “canon” adopted at Hippo Regis or Carthage sometime between 393 and 419, depending upon how you measure the beginning and the end of those synods/councils, and whether they constitute proper synods/councils. Raymond Burke would seek to excommunicate me for even calling it a synod, although that’s a little inside joke to amuse only myself.


But that “canon” text may be the “original” in one sense of the term, but that's a little bit different than what Ehrman said even in his popular stuff. And it is almost certainly not consider canonical today, depending upon what one follows (KJV, NAB, etc.), a qualifier which in itself rather illustrates the problem in trying to establish an “authoritative” text. And that even fails to considered the various texts that were circulating that were not adopted as part of the canon, of which there are many.


But a lot of what Ehrman covers is the process between getting the original Quelle writings, to the extent we can know which is the original (circa 70 CE), which is a lot of the focus of the Historical Jesus project, to the “canonical” version over 300 years later, the theologization that took place as orthodoxy was defined and developed, a process that didn't stop after the Church councils/synods (again, to irritate Burke, not that he is reading THFSG). Been plenty of “corrections”/errant transcriptions/translations that have taken place since then that are now accepted. Continuing revelation and all that.


It really comes down to what you need to believe. The sola scriptura believers rely heavily on the inerrant text as history and for apologetic dispute settling. In that regard, the thought that what you read is not the “original", whatever that means, can be disturbing. But if you view it as Divine Revelation, continuingly mediated through a Church guided over time by the Spirit (with many human deviations that require redirection), not so problematic.

Hopefully we can now return to killing Pride.

 

Great link from the Brennan Center. They are solid.

 

BTW, when oh when are they going to release the Nashville mass child killing tranny’s manifesto ? Are they afraid that it’s NOT going to reveal that he/she wasn’t a Trumper ?

 

You might have too much time on your hands.

 

Thread hijacking? I pointed out that this guy doesnt fit the typical "white right wing" mold because CNN reported he was anti police.

And yes, in THIS thread the first mention of politics was from the OP.

Discussing that point further, based on updated media reporting, is not a hijack.

 

Sure, you got any?

 

Forget Bart Ehrman. That was just a side comment and I don’t want to turn this into a thread about arguing Ehrman.

The point is the vast majority of New Testament scholars believe that what we have represents what the original writers intended. Yes, there are some discrepancies between the thousands of copies that exist, but these are for the most part typographical errors. There is no contradiction in the meaning of any of the documents.