White Detroit suburb shows massive disparity in white/black traffic tickets

I’m shocked.

 

Wonder what the population that travels that connector stretch of road is vs the population of the city? If they are working a highway, that would be the population counterbalance, not the city.
Like Miami beach PD stopping everything crossing the bridge.
Too lazy to look up data or if the enforcement was in response to other issues. I thought Detroit got ghosted.

 

Well I don't know why this is but it can't be systemic racism. Systemic racism doesn't exist.

 

It may very well be what’s implied - that the police force is a bigoted group of racists; but, we don’t know.

That’s the issue with articles like this one - it tells a partial story and leaves an impression without any proof of anything. For instance, men are arrested more than 90% of the time for violent crime but are less than 1/2 of the population; ergo, the entire justice system must hate men and favor women. Where’s the equity? See? Statistics can be used, twisted and made to support almost anything… and sometimes the wrong thing.

 

selective common sense syndrome.

fyi. virtually nothing can truly be proved.

 

I really wonder what will happen when we have autonomous cars. Is it that tech that breaks minor arrests and police budgets?

 

Something tells me that if the tables in this story were reversed you would immediately jump to conclusions. But since this article doesn't show police and the brightest of light you want to take a "let's look at all the evidence" approach

 

That “something” is called bias. It makes you normal and I’m not at all offended as you don’t know me at all.

Trust the science and/or data once it’s been tested, reviewed, challenged and so on. Right now we have some information which certainly can be cause for concern and inquiry but doesn’t prove anything.

 

Big Gov lovers always have BIG GOV RULES as their null hypothesis. And, they think their null hypothesis doesn't REVEAL THEIR BIAS.*


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Then this is all you should have said.

 

Wow…on a message board. Thanks - let me know when the re-education camp bus is leaving.

Comments are typically insightful when folks (and there have been 3 on just this thread alone) try to focus the discussion on the person, the poster - not the substance of the idea presented.

Back to the thread: it is noted that over 80% of traffic stops are for POC but less than 7% of Ferndale residents are POC….BUT, only 1% of those given citations were Ferndale residents! Why cite the racial makeup of the town when only 1% of those ticketed were from that town?

I certainly could be wrong. It sounds to me like Ferndale has encouraged officers to do “extracurricular” policing outside the city limits to obtain more revenue. And, if those nearby Ferndale are typically from a lower socioeconomic status Ferndale police probably figure they have a higher likelihood of getting the revenue vs. a sharp (and expensive) lawyer contesting the ticket. Still not cool; but, who wants to read a story about a “speed trap” vs. race?

 

I am not sure about this one - could be two things. 1. Detroit is 80% African American and Ferndale is a throughway. People who work in Detroit but live in the suburbs dont get tickets cuz of the bumper to bumper traffic, you just cant speed. But after hours that place is a speed trap with all their 35 MPH roads and such. My wife worked there. 2. It's possible they are pulling over black americans passing through as profiling. Id need more info but worthy looking into.

 

Good points.