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Still Missing from all the Indictments...

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PD, Aug 16, 2023.

  1. okeechobee

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    I strongly disagree. For me, it has very little to do with supporting Donald Trump. It has to do with upholding Constitutional integrity and the weaponization of our Justice Dept. It's very obvious they've been weaponized against Trump and if we allow it to happen to Trump, we're going to lose more freedom and power. They literally have, as evidence, a tweet where Trump tells people to go watch the hearing on the election fraud on OAN. That was all he said. Asking people to turn on the news is a crime? That's ridiculous and embarrassing. Whether you love or hate the man, it is embarrassing we have local DA's filing indictments against a former POTUS over a tweet telling people to turn on the news.

    Notwithstanding if we allow them to get away with it now, you best believe they'll do it to DeSantis or whomever is in their way in the future. We can debate the indictments until we're blue in the face, but telling supporters to turn on the news is a crime or evidence of a crime? That's more lethal to our democracy than allowing biological men to compete in women's sports and it's not even close.
     
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  2. duchen

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    I told you where you can find the information.
     
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  3. PD

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    Assuming that's all correct (I've never even heard this, so I assume it's just right wing blogosphere lies, but I'll stay open minded until you can give me a link), who cares? You think the election results were changed because GA took more time to count the votes? Or do you side with the MAGAs who thought Trump won because he was leading at midnight ONLY because all the mail-in and early ballots hadn't been counted yet(which were heavily blue, which was known in advance, since Trump told his fans not to use mail or early voting, which is why they started the "Stop the count" campaign election night)?

    Or are you saying they accepted votes past the deadline? Because, again, without a legit link verifying this, I am highly dubious.
     
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  4. PD

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    Everything you say tells us you're in a cult. That was a bipartisan committee led up by 2 republicans. As I said, when Trump is convicted in all jurisdictions, you'll just vomit out more excuses, like "Oh, they were just liberal operatives on the jury. It's all deep state rigged (and then you read directly from The Book of Q)."

    You keep demanding proof that he did it (and ignoring the mountains of proof that he did it)....but you haven't given a single reason why you think he didn't do it.

    That's highly hypocritical.

    READ...THE...INDICTMENTS!!

    There is not a SINGLE charge involving speech.

    There is not a SINGLE charge involving Trump's call to violence on Jan 6.

    READ...THE...INDICTMENTS!!
     
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  5. PD

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    So, you consider grand jury indictments "partisan reports"....nothing to work with here, man.
     
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  6. PD

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    Another personal attack, rather than addressing the content.
     
  7. PD

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    It's almost as if they all just ignore anything that conflicts with their narrative.
     
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  8. GatorJMDZ

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    I've told Q before he has a serious disconnect. There is some issue that causes him not to process information correctly. It is very frustrating to try to communicate with someone like that.
     
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  9. danmanne65

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    30 percent of the country supported the nazis pre world war 2. Lindbergh a great American hero also supported him. Didn’t the rightful king of England also support him. People can be stupid but hopefully after enough crap is exposed most rational people will come to their senses. Trump is a piece of scum that somehow won an election. He got his butt kicked in his second try. He then tried to overthrow the election. It is mind boggling to me that people still support this truly bad human being.
     
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  10. ajoseph

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    Once again, you’re deflecting. I distinctly gave you the link to hard evidence — memos, emails, texts. I offered you a link to the sworn testimony…BY TRUMP’S INNER CIRCLE.

    You can choose to ignore all the hard evidence, something which we all understand given how inconvenient it is to your bias. But, you can’t intelligently claim “there’s no evidence.”

    Willful ignorance is a choice. It might be make you feel good, but it doesn’t make the facts disappear.
     
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  11. ajoseph

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  12. duchen

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    And who did the Proud Boys go into the Capital for? And why? Why did they say them went into the capital for and why? No. It wasn’t the Proud Boys and not Trump. Try informing yourself. Read the Testimony of the witnesses if you don’t trust the report.
     
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  13. ajoseph

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    Wait … do you think his four indictments are because of the speech?!?!

    I cannot stress this enough. If you are going to argue about the charges against Trump, you need to actually read them yourself. You’ve seem to have been humorously misled on what the charges are. Seriously, read the indictments. Don’t rely on message board “patriots” to inform you. I promise you’ll be content knowing the facts from your firsthand review.
     
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  14. duchen

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    Well, I guess it’s not too long to post a link to! The Executive summary and chapters on 1-6 address it clearly. Let’s be clear: these posters offer BS because they are sorry that the coup didn’t work. This is their normal. Believe them when they say they didn’t see Anything wrong. It isn’t that they don’t see what occurred. They just agree with it.
     
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  15. ajoseph

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    I’ve linked it for him. He doesn’t want to look at it.
     
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  16. ajoseph

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    The link drives a reader to the report, to evidence, to testimony, to it all. Any reader can review the hard evidence and make up their own mind. And there’s only one conclusion.
     
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  17. GatorJMDZ

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    A continuing problem.
     
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  18. PD

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    It's because he, like so many republicans, refuse to watch or read real news. They will only watch right wing propaganda like Fox News, OAN & NewsMax. They have been lying to their audience that all the charges are against things Trump said. They keep banging the drum that they are indictments against free speech.

    It's a lie, of course. Fox News had to admit in court in the Dominion suit that not only did they push hundreds of lies about election fraud, they had to admit that their entire business model is telling lies to manipulate public opinion.

    But republicans have no idea that happened...because Fox News never reported it. So they never saw or read a word of it.
     
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  19. philnotfil

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    There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
     
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  20. tigator2019

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    In my head--- UF
    Probability? Absolutely not.

    Not even being discussed by anyone in the WH or Dem leadership and I know this is a 100% factual statement.