I guess I could have accomplished the same results by running from the cops.

Hard to believe he got a job with a federal conviction, but it is Illinois.....

 

The numbers you note, without more, do not support that race plays a factor in police stops. As an example. Chicago is about 1/3 white. The US population is about 75% white. Montana is about 90% white. This study was using only North Carolina data, which is currently about 70% white. Across the nation, counties, cities and even zip codes there are huge racial variations.

What police department’s data in North Carolina were reviewed? How does the author know the average driving time of different races?

I just will not blindly accept someone’s interpretation of data. I am not a fan of drawing broad conclusions from statistics without first subjecting it to rigorous scrutiny.

 

Ah the good ol' "plant drugs in the car" trick. A favorite tactic of many officers, old and young. Naive folks think simply being polite and cooperative with the police makes you immune to being a target of this corruption, poor naive souls.

 

If anything, his story is only a confirmation of white privilege.

 

Oops, forgot to add the second link

Traffic Stop Of Star Trek Fans Raises Concerns About Drug Searches

 

Here's some info on what departments in North Carolina was reviewed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-stops-can-tell-us-about-driving-while-black/

The book is based on data on 20 million traffic stops in North Carolina. Where did those data come from and what kinds of information do they contain?

In the late-1990s, the concept of “driving while black” began getting national attention. North Carolina became the first state to mandate the collection of traffic stops data in 1999, thanks in large part to efforts by black representatives in the state legislature.

The database includes information on why the driver was pulled over, the outcome of the stop and demographic information about the driver. It also has an anonymous identification number for each officer as well as the time of the stop and the police agency that conducted it.

The initial law focused only on the State Highway Patrol, but it was expanded two years later to cover almost every police agency in the state. As a result, we have a record of virtually every traffic stop in the state since 2002.

 

The main one being you’re old, white and harmless. If you were younger, black and spry and pulled that shit you would’ve probably gotten a few bullets to your chest. That white privilege is something else.

 

You did something very dangerous and illegal on the road, weren't wearing your seatbelt, and then hopped out of the car immediately after you pulled over (a huge no-no). The cop didn't pull a gun on you and let you off with a warning. And you think you deserve that treatment because you didn't try to flee and because you were polite and apologetic in the subsequent interaction.

I'm not the one incapable of seeing life as it really is. Nor am I the person who started a thread to pretend I deserved this privileged treatment because after a ton of screwups, I was polite.

 

everything in your post is textbook racism. SMH. On top of that, your assertion that if he were another race he would have been shot is so ridiculous and unfounded that *

* I have been told not post my true feeling. So I will instead post a meme

 

The harsh truth can hurt sometimes. You’ll be okay.

 

it’s good to know you at least acknowledge it. That is always the first step on your path to goodness and enlightenment. I hope you will be able to one day find it in your heart to treat all people, regardless of their race, as equal. Until then…#hugs

 

I hope that one day, police officers decide to do the same.

#hugs back at ya!

 

Old & white is where the biased assumption of harmlessness comes in and young & black where the biased assumption of danger comes. Explains a lot about why white folk think it's normal to be let go if they're just polite, and why they're blinded to how it often doesn't work that way for others with different characteristics.

 

Ideally, this is where the whole “put yourself in the shoes of other people who don’t look like you” thing should come in. Unfortunately, some folks steadfastly refuse to do that and choose to view the world strictly through their own biased lens.

 

This following story illustrates that neither extreme completely defines policing. Not all cops are villains, and not all cops are heroes. They both exist as well as plenty in between.

I met this guy once because I went to church for a long time with his brother. Relevant to another thread, this family took in a high school student from Central African Republic as an exchange student. They became his legal guardians, and he became their son.

After a stand out basketball career at Xavier university and playing 12 years professionally in Europe, their black son Romain Sato settled in Houston. Coming home from playing golf one day, he entered the gated community where he lived and was followed by a police officer who pulled him over. The office said he looked like a burglar casing houses. This happened a short distance from his own home.

The same day his American brother, a police officer in Dayton, was being cursed at, spit on, and called a racist at a George Floyd protest. The mostly white protesters had no idea the officer had a black brother, and assumed he must be racist because he’s a policeman.

The father spent most of his career in policing, then started a foundation that helps immigrants become integrated into society, and is helping police departments reform their policies.

I think the spectrum is a triangle. At one point are bad cops, at another point there are cops just trying to do their job and sometimes endure abuse for it, and on the third point there are some trying to make a difference.

Archdeacon: Police chief learned the power of compassion from unique family

 

You and @mutz87 need to start dating eachother and film your interactions for a reality TV show. Between the racism, consipiracy theories, and general high jinks I see an MTV Cribs like show in your futures. Something late night because of NSFW language and allowing the audience to fall asleep. I personally would love to watch you two interact while slamming a bottle of tequila.

 

I've probably seen every one of those videos too. Okay, maybe not every single one but close enough. It's true enough that people won't necessarily get shot, for doing what you did, regardless of demographics, but the general gist of what you and others are not seeing and what others have pointed out to you is that your singular experience in being polite despite having jumped out of your car to hide the fact that you weren't wearing a seatbelt doesn't mean this is always how it goes for others in similar situations but with different demo characteristics.

Systemic bias has been playing out in policing for as long as we've been collecting data and studying it--and no doubt much longer than that and that bias isn't against whites--hence the point about lawyer mentioning privilege.