I just don't get it. I understand that they finally started beating the teams that they should beat (ACC crap) and stopped getting blown out by everyone else, but that only equates to improvement in my book. Not pre-season top 10 going into the next season. They lost to every ranked team they played last season and finished things off by barely beating a bad UF and OU by a combined 10 points. I'll be a huge corndog fan in a couple of weeks.
2 reasons. 1) there really aren't that many good teams outside of the usual 4-6 teams and FSU finished well last season. 2) they have a veteran QB that looked good down the stretch and can only be seen as being more improved going into this reason.
They have a top 5 player in the country QB, a great DL in Verse, a good to great RB, good to great CB, and two good WR. The talent level has been steadily climbing the last few years and they crushed it in the portal to fill in gaps. They may have up to 5 day 1 draft picks next year to our 1-2. With that said, they are probably overrated but they play 3 good teams this year so the ranking is likely to work out to be pretty close. Unless they get beaten by LSU as badly as I suspect they might. The bad wins thing cracks me up. Especially when compared to the debate of whether it will be a good win if we beat Utah without Rising. There is a good argument for it not mattering. Yes OU and UF were down…but they won those and won 10 games with a bowl win. They return the QB that led them. Time to just accept that Norvell has done a good job and they’re a good team.
Also look at the final AP poll last year, is it really hype? They moved up 3 spots because for obvious reasons TCU, Tulane, Utah and Washington aren't expected to have big years again. final AP Poll of 22 season. Georgia (63 1st-place votes) TCU Michigan Ohio State Alabama Tennessee Penn State Washington Tulane Utah Florida State USC Clemson Kansas State Oregon LSU Oregon State Notre Dame Troy Mississippi State UCLA Pittsburgh South Carolina Fresno State Texas
They ended the season strong (sans the bowl game), have an experienced QB and have a ton of returning production. Plus they did well in the portal. But I’m with you …they haven’t had a signature win in over 6 years, and finally had a season where they beat the teams they should have been beating but haven’t since 2015. They will be good and should be ranked, but anyone who has them finishing as a 1 or 2 loss team or a borderline playoff team is setting themselves up for disappointment IMO.
They haven't won jack yet, though it appears their rebuild is ahead of ours, which sucks. We won't be down forever.
Part of is is that I think the ACC as a whole is expected to be somewhat weak. The only 3 ranked teams are #8 FSU, #9 Clemson and #21 UNC ... and they don't play UNC. We'll know if FSU is for real pretty quickly as the only other ranked team FSU plays is #5 LSU in Orlando in week 1 and Clemson in week 4.
Schedule comparison: FSU..................UF #5 LSU............#14 Utah #9 Clemson......#12 Tennessee #32 Pitt...........#33 Kentucky #41 FL.............#27 South Carolina .derp...............#1 Georgia .loser...............#30 Arkansas .wimp..............#5 LSU .pffft................#8 FSU https://www.si.com/fannation/colleg...kings/college-football-schedule-rankings-2023 SoS: FSU - 78 / FL - 6 ESPN fpi gives FL a 50.1% chance of defeating the Nolies in the Swamp.
According to ESPN they have 2 of the top 10 players in the country and 10 of the top 100. We have none in the top 100.
They should be good, I don't agree with the National title stuff though. I see why they are being talked about it's a big time program that hasn't been as good as it should for a while and they had a really nice year last year, they finished strong, they open against a SEC team. I do also think they rely a lot on their qb to make plays from broken plays which can lead to some injuries to the QB very easily. I don't think they beat LSU but I wouldn't be shocked either those first week games are crazy you never know what can happen and both teams will have plenty of talent.
Flip their schedule with ours and we would be rated much higher and them much lower. We'll beat them this season.
Heck . . . rank 'em #2 . . . pre-season rankings mean little and just that much farther for the Holes to fall IMO! Just thinik, we might be able to say, "Yeah, they were ranked pre-season #2 and fell from there to unranked." LOL! You're right, we'll all be pulling for LSU in that game. I think we do . . . just not according to ESPN's slanted view. We'll see. Still talking season according to Coach Spurrier though.
So they’re a 49.9% win possibility against a team forecast to be 8-4 at best, but are a top ten team? That checks…
True and the schedule plays a role in their ranking. They could lose to FL and still go 10-2, which would likely have them in the top 10.
I dislike fsu more than any other school, but they are doing something right. They have guys who should be entering the draft staying in school, they are bringing in transfers, and now they are beating uga for commitments.
To be honest, that may be a bit much. ROAD games versus ranked opponents??? He was at G5 Memphis and then took over the Taggert/Jimbo mess. I wouldn’t expect that record to look good with anyone in his position.
I think this image further illustrates the cake schedule FSU has every year. 2 ranked road games in 2020, which is high for them, because of how the schedules were done in 2020 due to COVID. On average they have 1 or 0 ranked road games per year, so it's not like he's had a ton of chances haha
