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Trump's Troubles

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. GatorJMDZ

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  2. rivergator

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    Georgia prosecutors have messages showing Trump's team is behind voting system breach | CNN Politics
     
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  4. ursidman

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    However, trump still maintains a loyal following.

     
  5. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    What is amazing to me is that even with the little bit of info we have, the facts are already apparent that he is guilty of everything he has been charged and more. Documents case, they have him on tape talking about a document that he hid and they found much later along with proof that he ordered tapes erased and boxes moved. Jan 6, they have the attorney memo laying out the exact fake elector scheme they tried to run along with every member of his cabinet and VP that all told him he lost and there was no fraud. Georgia, recorded phone call asking to change results along with testimony from multiple republican georgia state officials to go along with proof that team trump was behind objective to take voting machines. There is jsut so much documentation of his crimes I see no way he gets off on any of them, let alone all three, unless he just dies or becomes crippled before they finally exhaust all their delays and appeals
     
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  6. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    Trump’s ‘Co-Conspirators’ Are Already Starting to Turn on Each Other (msn.com)

    Jack Smith’s latest indictment of Donald Trump isn’t yet two weeks old, but the alleged “co-conspirators” it identifies are already beginning to turn on each other — and some of them aren’t even being subtle about it.

    A number of the ex-president’s chief lieutenants and alleged co-conspirators in the plot to overturn the election, such as conservative attorney John Eastman, have insisted the effort was perfectly legal and based on sound evidence. Others, however, have recently sought to distance themselves from the efforts of others, implicitly heaping the blame for any potential criminal conduct onto fellow participants in Trump’s attempted coup.

    “It is the ‘please don’t put me in jail, put that other guy in jail’ strategy that was sure to come up at some point or another,” says one attorney working in Trump’s legal orbit.

    Attorneys for veterans of Trump’s post-election activities like Rudy Giuliani and Kenneth Chesebro — both of whom have been identified as among the six unnamed “co-conspirators” in the most recent federal indictment of Trump — are now casting blame towards others on the campaign’s legal team or people close to the then-president. Giuliani and his lawyer are now openly trashing and blaming the “crackpot” alleged activities of Sidney Powell, another lawyer who worked on Trump’s post-election efforts. On top of that, Chesebro, the key architect of Trump’s fake-electors ploy, is now trying to downplay his involvement in the effort, spreading the possible blame and criminal exposure elsewhere.
     
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  7. AndyGator

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    Not to mention the dozens and dozens of Republican witnesses, including a few who actually served under Trump.
     
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    Any attorneys here happen to know if a judge in one case (Jan 6th) can reprimand a defendant for witness tampering in a different case (GA election interference)? Or does the tampering have to be specific to the case that judge is overseeing?

    Pretty wild that we have to ask these questions related to a former President of the United States.

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  9. rivergator

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    From the NYT. A close look at how the Trump team tried to overturn out democracy in Georgia.

    Two Months in Georgia: How Trump Tried to Overturn the Vote
     
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  10. ValdostaGatorFan

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    Didn't he screenshot someone else's post and post it under his account on his platform? I'm not on that platform, nor would I ever be, but the way I heard it described, it sounded like a violation of the court order to quit posting messages attacking witnesses and whatnot.
     
  11. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    He went after Georgia lieutenant governor who is clear that Trump asked him to change the election results.
     
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  12. ursidman

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    Told him he “shouldn’t “ testify. Witness intimidation?

    Could trump be trying to get charged with witness intimidation or influencing witnesses in order to bog down his court cases while judges have to schedule and hold hearings on 1st amendment rights?

    Run out his personal clock?
     
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  13. WarDamnGator

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    According to the NY Post, Georgia prosecutors mistakenly posted, then deleted, their future docket showing Trump faces multiple charges including racketeering and conspiracy.

    A two-page docket briefly posted and then removed from the Fulton County court’s website showed the 77-year-old former president facing charges including racketeering, conspiracy and false statements, according to Reuters.
     
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  14. G8trGr8t

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    just a personal recommendation, I guess. One silver linign is that it seems that fewer and fewer people are willing to get radical for Trump after they saw him leave everyone from 1/6 twisting in the wind and even the proud boys leader turned on Trump.
     
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    When they take his mug shot for his RICO criming etc will he have to stand in front of a height chart? Can we get him on a scale as well?
     
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  17. Sohogator

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    This could be funnier than watching him react to Obama at the WHPC dinner.
     
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  20. G8trGr8t

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    i think that mroe and more people are realizing that the emperor has no robes and are turning their back, less likely to be incited to violence for the fraud. At least I hope so, they might still vote for him but they won't fight for him.
     
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